I am a commercial photographer so the color of lights is important to me.
To the great unwashed: daylight IS bluer than incandescent lighting.
So why in the world would the engineers want to take us backward?
BTW, my office is illuminated with a Philips LED. And, yes, it does have a yellow filter in front of the LEDs. What the filter does is cut the actual output rendering it less efficient. I'm sure Al Gore is rolling around in his grave due to that one. (Oh...? He's alive? Sorry.)
Terry Thomas...
the photographer
Atlanta, Georgia USA
http://www.TerryThomasPhotos.com
New tech improves the color of LED lights
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A big criticism leveled on LED lights is they don't match the color and quality of an incandescent light bulb. Start-up Intematix has developed a set of technologies that it believes improves LED lights. Using materials known as phosphors, scientists at the company are able to convert LED light from blue to more useful colors.
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RE: New tech improves the color of LED lights
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19th Apr 2011
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IMPROVING THE KELVIN TEMP OF LEDS
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25th May 2011
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Why would one want to have color as bad as incandescent?
Posted by AtlantaTerry
19th Apr 2011
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RE: New tech improves the color of LED lights
Nice idea, but how about discussing lumens before messing with Kelvin units. CFLs and incandescent bulbs give comparable info, so we know how much light we're buying. LED's seem only to come by the count of bulbs- and who knows how bright those bulbs are?
Posted by majjr
19th Apr 2011
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This is already used by many manufacturer's and it works great.
Posted by jfldesign
19th Apr 2011
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Well, these are interesting concepts and certainly address some of the issues concerning the light spectrum output of LED's. I'm surprised by the comments of the "photographer" because if he really understood photography and the way that the eye/mind perceives light is often at odds with reality. In fact manipulating light and color is frequently a photographer's ideal to create a desireable look or effect (let's not talk about proofing prints here).
That being said, people are accustomed to the warmth of tungsten based lighting. Fluorescents often create a ghastly greenish glow, have issues with mercury, and rarely last their quoted life. For me, the biggest unasnswered question with LED's apart from their cost is whether they will last as long as the claims suggest? Will their electronics fail early and my $25+ bulb become nothing more than expensive landfill?
That being said, people are accustomed to the warmth of tungsten based lighting. Fluorescents often create a ghastly greenish glow, have issues with mercury, and rarely last their quoted life. For me, the biggest unasnswered question with LED's apart from their cost is whether they will last as long as the claims suggest? Will their electronics fail early and my $25+ bulb become nothing more than expensive landfill?
Posted by ajrmd
19th Apr 2011
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The photographer has it exactly right!
1. Yes photographers play with light and composition, but most of them do so in POST! It's absurd to be doing it in the actual shot. Waste of time and money. Therefore, you should be starting with the most accurate pic, not the one that's already color skewed.
Yeah, a bunch of people are accustomed to Tungsten. A bunch of people are also accustomed to smoking cigarettes. We don't make them stop smoking, but the people that hate the sickly yellow skew appreciate not needing to deal with it. You want your bad habit, fine, but keep it to yourself.
The problems typically aren't with LEDs themselves. The problem comes with people try to convert a low voltage DC technology to fit in existing sockets running high voltage AC. Why do we have this problem, same reason we have yellow lights. People "got used to" building houses one particularly stupid way, and so houses get built the same way now, with the same components for the most part for 100 years.
Yeah, a bunch of people are accustomed to Tungsten. A bunch of people are also accustomed to smoking cigarettes. We don't make them stop smoking, but the people that hate the sickly yellow skew appreciate not needing to deal with it. You want your bad habit, fine, but keep it to yourself.
The problems typically aren't with LEDs themselves. The problem comes with people try to convert a low voltage DC technology to fit in existing sockets running high voltage AC. Why do we have this problem, same reason we have yellow lights. People "got used to" building houses one particularly stupid way, and so houses get built the same way now, with the same components for the most part for 100 years.
Posted by tkejlboom
19th Apr 2011
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I agree. "Just because" is not a good way to do things. In order to get really good lighting we need it to simulate sunlight as closely as possible. And yellow lighting is actually harder for me to see with at night. Ever wonder why a flashlight has great light at night? Because it ain't yellow.
Posted by rclark79
9th May 2011
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I would believe the color of natural daylight would be favorable to anything man-made
I spend most of time enjoying the Florida sunshine and believe our eyes were designed to do the same. .
I spend most of time enjoying the Florida sunshine and believe our eyes were designed to do the same. .
Posted by ndjalva
28th Apr 2011
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Posted by Osvaldo Antonio
7th May 2011
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New tech improves the color of LED lights
Changing the colour of LEDs to yellow to match old technology tungsten based light bulbs is certainly not "improving it",its only changing it.
What if Edison had created a light bulb that simulated daylight,would we still want to change LEDs to yellow,I think not.
For me,as a working photographer, Id far rather have a simulated daylight system than a tungsten or halogen system,in fact I have already got daylight low energy bulbs all around my house,a much better light to live under.
What if Edison had created a light bulb that simulated daylight,would we still want to change LEDs to yellow,I think not.
For me,as a working photographer, Id far rather have a simulated daylight system than a tungsten or halogen system,in fact I have already got daylight low energy bulbs all around my house,a much better light to live under.
Posted by michael@...
16th May 2011
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IMPROVING THE KELVIN TEMP OF LEDS
What I note of the comments made about changing the LED output is that people are missing that these are NOT filters but re-outputing by conversion of blue light to other frequencies and thus the process is much more efficient. After all a pure blue light cannot be filtered to say, orange any other way. This is a fine idea..the phosphor conversion approach and though I would prefer 5000K in my environment, others might want 3000K to match their need for a redder sort of incandescent look ( blech). To each his own on this but making such a light available at reasonable costs is the big thing today. It will save gigantic amounts of energy if they can bring the price to a comparable level to say, CFLs..
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25th May 2011
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Music Sumi Das: While LED lighting may be the future, right now, say industry experts, the quality of light from LEDs just doesn't compare to the tried and true incandescent bulb. That's were California-based startup Intematix comes in with their phosphorous technology. They've developed a set of powders, which when used to coat an LED chip changes the color and quality of the light. Mark Swoboda is the company's CEO. Mark Swoboda: What we've realized is that phosphor is the arbitrator of light quality. It is responsible for the color of light, warm white, neutral white, cool white. Sumi Das: The phosphors are made in the companies R&D lab. They're processed in this giant oven and then tested in a sealed chamber for durability. Mark Swoboda: What the phosphors do are convert a certain color of light into the color the customer needs. Most LED lights are blue behind the scenes, and we use a series of these phosphors to convert them to a useful color. And so by mixing these together, you can turn a blue LED basically magically into a warm white output. Sumi Das: The company's newest technology is called "ChromaLit." Here the phosphor materials are made into solid shapes instead of powder so lighting manufacturers can place this plastic disc directly onto the light and mix and match. Mark Swoboda: Here we have blue LEDs. These make blue photons. They can be used as the power source for the system. And for example, we can take the ChromaLit source at 2700 Kelvin, which is a very warm color temperature. Now you see have something that would be great for your home. But then if you want to do office lighting or industrial lighting, you can take the 5000 Kelvin source, which is a much cooler color temperature, and now you have an entirely different luminaire product that works great in a factory or a big box retail store. Sumi Das: According to Intematix, the new plastic discs give lighting manufacturers more design freedom, and for the consumer, the company hopes they've created a formula that will make LED lights a formidable alternative to the old-fashioned light bulb. Mark Swoboda: Hopefully, to the consumer it won't look any different than what they're used to. Our belief is, and my belief is, that the market does not want lighting to be noticeable. Sumi Das: For Smart Planet, I'm Sumi Das.
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