So what if the Shroud of Turin is a fake

By John Dodge | Oct 13, 2009 |

In 2004, a 10-year-old cheese sandwich with a likeness of the Virgin Mary reportedly sold for $28,000 on eBay. And on slow news days, local TV stations report Virgin Mary sightings on fogged windows and in cloud formations.

Many like me discount such fantasies as ridiculous, but what counts is the meaning of the cheese sandwich in the eyes of the beholder. Quite frankly, the site of a freshly grilled cheese sandwich makes me hungry.

That brings us to the Shroud of Turin, which was in the news again last week. I don’t pay a huge amount of attention to such things, but if someone asked me if the shroud was really Christ’s burial garb, I’d say “nonsense.”

Last week, Italian chemist and professor Luigi Garlaschelli also said “nonsense” after he recreated a shroud using the image of one of his students.

The Shroud next to Garlaschelli's student (right) credit: publicbroadcasting.net

The Shroud next to Garlaschelli's student (r.) credit: publicbroadcasting.net

“Luigi Garlaschelli created a copy of the shroud by wrapping a specially woven cloth over one of his students, painting it with pigment, baking it in an oven (which he called a “shroud machine”) for several hours, then washing it,” according to a CNN story (see pic). “Then for the sake of completeness I have added the bloodstains, the burns, the scorching because there was a fire in 1532,” Garlaschelli said.

He claims his tests prove that some of the unique characteristics of the shroud such as the absence of paint or pigment can be replicated by an artist or his case, a scientist. Shroud defenders have long argued the shroud cannot be recreated.

Garlaschelli, also a professor at the University of Pavia,  is not the first to debunk the shroud. In 1988, three universities conducted carbon dating tests and concluded it was created between 1260 and 1380. That, of course, set off a firestorm. And some like RomanCathlicbog.com have rushed to discredit Garlaschelli’s findings, claiming he was funded by an “Italian association of atheists and agnostics.”

Actually, the official Vatican position on the shroud is quite rationale, focusing more on what the it means to believers rather than defending its authenticity.

“For the believer, what counts above all is that the shroud is a mirror of the Gospel. We cannot escape the idea that the image it presents has such a profound relationship with what the Gospels tell of Jesus’ passion and death, that every sensitive person feels inwardly touched and moved beholding it,” Pope John Paul II wrote of his 1998 visit to the Turin Cathedral where it is housed.

Garlaschelli

Garlaschelli

John Paul II also said that proving or disproving its authenticity should be left to scientists. Who can argue with that?

I have no problem with people believing what they want and I know faith has served powerfully in the lives of many. What the shroud represents is more important than whether it’s real on not. Unless someone invents a time machine so we can get a `film at 11′  eyewitness account, it will never be definitively proven one way or the other although the carbon tests seem pretty convincing.

I also think that heathen Garlaschelli who confesses to being a non-believer is onto something. As for the cheese sandwich, I have a hard time swallowing it, but someone willing to pay 28 grand didn’t.

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    GwentBoy

    10/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: So what if the Shroud of Turin is a fake

    The official Vatican position on the Shroud reminds me of Kenneth Branagh's response when asked if he believed Shakespeare's plays were all written by one man. "Who cares?" said Branagh. "The important thing is, we have the plays."

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    GregB3

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    RE: So what if the Shroud of Turin is a fake

    The carbon dating tests are in dispute. I saw a video on the Shroud of Turin where they debunked the carbon dating tests. Sorry, but I can't remember the title of the video. It turns out that the carbon dating samples were taken from a section of the shroud that had been repaired with later dated material. In the video a researcher, I think that his name was Raymond Rogers, reviewed the testing and he agreed that the carbon dating tests were flawed. A Google search will bring up web sites covering this dispute.

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    golampo

    10/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: So what if the Shroud of Turin is a fake

    I don't know about the Shroud of Turin, but it's easy to see that the grill cheese Mary is the real deal. Also, I think Garlaschelli's pipe is a fake, and his goatee is suspect.

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    Geogeer

    10/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: So what if the Shroud of Turin is a fake

    Actually the Garlaschelli can easily be shown not to be a replica.
    This "replica" has already been debunked. The 1978 STURP
    scientific team proved that there are no pigments of any kind
    on the shroud (this includes red ochre). Additionally, the blood
    is under the image and not on top as was shown here. Also,
    there are errors in the 3D image on the replica, as well as no
    fine detail. The shroud an inredibly fine resolution. It is
    possible to make out the details of the coins on the eyes and
    flowers surrounding the body. This poor replica was funded by
    a bunch of atheists right before the shroud is to go on public
    display again. It has never been submitted for any scientific
    review. Yet before even being reviewed can be shown to be a
    very poor fake. It would never hold up to any peer review, and
    the only reason that it got any press at all is thatit was trying to
    debunk something that science has not been able to do.

    http://shroudofturin.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/why-the-
    italian-fake-does-not-reproduce-the-shroud-of-turin/

    Or a video if that is easier to digest:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjxZFfHVtsE&feature

    The carbon dating has been shown to be in error. The sample
    chosen for the carbon dating was not representative of the
    whole because of a medieval patch known as invisible
    reweaving. This has been verified by the head chemist on the
    STRUP research team.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/513716
    3/Turin-Shroud-could-be-genuine-as-carbon-dating-was-
    flawed.html

    His peer reviewed paper on this:
    Raymond N. Rogers, "Studies on the radiocarbon sample from
    the Shroud of Turin," Thermochimica Acta Vol. 425, Issues 1-2,
    20 January 2005, Pages 189-194.

    And a nice documentary describing it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?
    v=1Ai30u3sPSs&feature=related

    The shroud cannot yet be explained, there are no replicas, and
    the carbon14 testing was not accurate - not because the test
    method is wrong, but because what was tested was not a pure
    piece of the shroud.

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