Neil Armstrong remembers man behind Apollo 11

By John Dodge | Jun 11, 2009 |

He shuffles a bit when he walks and there was a slight shake in his right hand but there was no mistaking Neil Armstrong yesterday when he and others came to remember his Apollo 11 architect colleague Robert C. Seamans Jr. The occasion was the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11.

“Bob was the perfect man for the job. He knew the laboratories and researchers. He tended to state the facts which was very uncommon in Washington. He had the technical [experience] to make big rocket engines to the moon,” the 78-year-old Armstrong said of Seamans who passed away a year ago. I shook Armstrong’s steady hand, thinking he’s the only human I ever touched who’s been on another celestial body. Cool!

Neil Armstrong

Neil Armstrong

Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin

Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin

They came to honor Bob Seamans. Armstrong is second from right.

They came to honor Bob Seamans. Armstrong is second from right.

Neil Armstrong

Neil Armstrong

The star of the event was the late Seamans who was lauded for his tough decision-making and working for the good of the country when the Space Race with the Soviets was running full tilt throughout the Sixties.

Seamans was deputy administrator for NASA for the better part of the Sixties had to make key decisions such as whether to go directly to moon from earth orbit or use a moon orbiter (Earth-Orbit Rendezvous or Lunar-Orbit Rendezvous). Should two astronaut’s go the moon’s surface or one? How do you test the stages of the huge Saturn V rocket?

The pressure that the program could be a disaster in so many respects was unrelenting. Seamans confided countless times to colleagues how “lucky” NASA was with the success and safety of the program.

And then there were little decisions and territorial disputes.

“NASA [labs] differed on English or international measurements. Huntsville (where rockets were made) wanted meters. Houston (Space Center) wanted feet. He faced big challenges. He had a billion dollars spread all over the United States, but it was clear we were not catching up with the Soviets,” Armstrong said, who added that when they put Yuri Gagarin successfully into orbit in 1961, the nation was “thunderstruck and embarrassed.”

Alan Shepard (first manned U.S. space flight) was technically less impressive, but it was enough to give us hope. We were in the race,” Armstrong said.

Indeed, Seamans enjoyed a storied career - besides his time at NASA, he was secretary of the Air Force where he modernized development programs, MIT dean of engineering and president of the National Academy of Engineering. He sat on numerous scientific boards and was genuinely loved by students, colleagues and friends as a man who did the right thing and who could bring competing sides together.

The afternoon was about a behind-the-scenes player not the first guy who stepped off the LEM onto the the moon. Armstrong would have wanted it that way on the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11. Educators, engineers, rocket scientists, Apollo pioneers and another former secretary of the Air Force (Sheila Widnall) offered their thoughts on Seamans.

Two of the most interesting observations came from two ex-presidents of MIT. Charles Vest in a video recalled having an “amazing” dinner with Seamans who confided that President John F. Kennedy had said the U.S needed to put a man on mars to win the space race.

Mars? Seamans had to tell him this was impossible. Later, I asked Buzz Aldrin who was second on the moon if I had heard that right. He thought maybe Vest meant the moon, but wasn’t sure.

Former MIT president Paul Gray put Seamans contribution at NASA this way:

“He drove the creation of robust [space] vehicles that didn’t only put men on the moon, but brought them home safely in crippled space vehicles in Apollo 13.”

The MUST SEE video below was mentioned several times yesterday. It was a lecture given by Armstrong and Seamens in 1994 when they talked about the creation of the Apollo program (Aldrin was there as well). It was considered a virtuoso performance by those pursuing aeronautics and aerospace careers. It’s an incredible story which Seamens also put in his autobiography Aiming at Targets.

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    AnnieD1

    06/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Neil Armstrong Remembers Man Behind Apollo 11

    Great behind the scenes look at science and history and the people of that historic time.

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    hilltop12

    06/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Neil Armstrong Remembers Man Behind Apollo 11

    Was there any talk of any significant changes in policy towards NASA under the new Obama admin?

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    John Dodge

    06/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Neil Armstrong Remembers Man Behind Apollo 11

    Hilltop12

    Yes, there was lot of discussion about it. The NASA budget has been flat for about 30 years and many there don't think Obama does not have much interest in deep space exploration. For years, the debate has focused on earth orbit exploration v. deep space exploration, i.e. going back to the moon and mars.

    John Holdren, Obama's scitech point man, spoke and it would seem there are so many issues on Obama's plate, he may never get to think deeply about space exploration. That was my impression.

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    Lawrence Krikorian

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    RE: Neil Armstrong Remembers Man Behind Apollo 11

    Thank you for your article. Your word "Cool" may be more appropriate than you know! When Armstrong set down the LM, with 17 seconds of fuel remaining before abort ("When We Left Earth"), he was demonstrating the quality that the old Army Air Corps used to type on every Airman's Air Medal Commendation: "coolness." It meant, right before you are about to buy the ranch big time, you remain focused and in possession of your faculties, enabling you to accomplish the mission, which includes returning to base. Landing on the moon was the greatest thing, but getting back to earth in one piece was everything. Thanks, again.

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    loaded statement

    "John Holdren, Obama's scitech point man, spoke and it would seem there are so many issues on Obama's plate, he may never get to think deeply about space exploration. That was my impression."

    Holdren's 'field' is eugenics. Check the man's history, and try to imagine why he's the "scitech point man." This administration is obsessed with vaccines, space only registers as far as the military aspects go.

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    Apollo 11 commander Neil Armstrong avoided a clash of public opinion with his two former crew mates last night, quietly not to join their calls to the U.S. to reconsider its controversial plans to send astronauts to the moon.

    Leaving aside the debate on whether NASA is wasting time and resources to re-examine the lunar surface before starting more ambitious trips to Mars and beyond, Mr. Armstrong reflected on the story instead of the space race as the three gathered to commemorate the 40th anniversary of its mission.

    Delivering the annual conferences of John H. Glenn at the National Air and Space Smithsonian Museum in Washington, Mr. Armstrong joined Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins to deal with a "who's who of aviation dignitaries.

    But while his crewmates took the opportunity to offer feisty calls for the United States to reconsider its lunar ambitions and set its sights on higher goals, Mr. Armstrong - who is said to plan for NASA to establish of a human base on the moon before venturing beyond - step cautiously.
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