Troubled teens on powerful drugs

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  marie curie

  10/28/09 | Report as spam

  RE: Troubled teens on powerful drugs

  I can't too
  What is ADHD ??? Can you give me more details about it ?
  My education: http://mariecurie.biz

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  davetracer@...

  10/28/09 | Report as spam

  I am so sorry to hear of this...

  I'm very sorry that this happened to your son, Dana. I'm glad your son was pulled off the med that was not right for him.
  
  I had to take my son in to a hospital when a med had an unforeseen side effect, and that's a grim memory. (He is okay; he just needed to get it flushed out of his system, which just took a few days.)
  
  There is always the possibility of side-effects and even "paradoxical" effects (the reverse of what the med should do). For example, Buspar, which is supposed to help prevent panic attacks, set them off in me.
  
  People are vastly different. I don't blame the meds. I know of specific cases where these meds have done an enormous amount of good, such as, in *me*. However, they have to be carefully "dialed in", which takes many visits to the doctor, and a lot of insurance plans just don't allow that.
  
  These meds, Seroquel in particular, are vastly better and much more selective than the "blunt-hammer" meds that preceded them, such as Thorazine. And older tricyclic meds like imipramine usually cause body weight to go up.
  
  We agree: meds need to be prescribed carefully, and the people they're given to need to be watched carefully. If that's done, these meds can do a lot of good.
  
  It sounds like your son is okay now, Dana. I'm very pleased that's the case. After all: "We are all parents out here".
  
  Have a good day,
  
  David Small
  
  p.s. I am not a doctor. This is not a doctor's advice. And my memory sucks. So go talk to a good doctor before using anything I wrote here! This is just my opinion.

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  DanaBlankenhorn

  10/28/09 | Report as spam

  Marie Curie

  I apologize. I've written about ADHD so much I do forget to explain it, even on first reference.
  
  It stands for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. The best primer on it is Edmund Hallowell's "Driven to Distrcation." http://www.amazon.com/Driven-Distraction-Recognizing-Attention-Childhood/dp/0684801280/?tag=nosimacluecom
  
  He's not only a doctor, he's a client. He admits to having ADHD. So do I.

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  JohnMcGrew@...

  10/29/09 | Report as spam

  The number of kids on psychotropic drugs is simply scary

  I am not a doctor. And unlike some people, I do not like second
  guessing medical professionals diagnosis of people I don't even know.
  But at the same time I have to question is the sheer number of
  children today, especially boys, who are diagnosed with ADHD or
  similar disorders and are prescribed very powerful psychotropic drugs
  to "correct" their behavior.
  
  I have little doubt that if I was born 25 years later, I too would
  have been diagnosed as ADHD and offered these drugs. (I certainly
  remember some teachers wish I had) I thank God that never happened.
  I doubt my life would have turned out as well.
  
  We know today that the brains of children are literally "under
  construction" until they're through their teen years, and even into
  their 20s. We also know that most clinical drug testing is done on
  adults, not children. From my reading on this topic, I sense that
  there is woefully inadequate knowledge of what the real long-term
  implications are when these drugs are used on brains that aren't yet
  "hardwired".
  
  But what I fear is really happening is that teachers, other
  institutional workers and even parents are defining down what
  "normal" kid behavior is, and have found it much easier to deal with
  drugged and sedate kids than otherwise normal but boisterous
  behavior, especially that of boys.
  
  Dana, I'm so sorry this happened to your family. Too often, we have
  to take it on faith that the "professionals" we've entrusted have
  integrity and the best answer, because when it turns out they are
  wrong, the consequences are extreme.
  
  (Perhaps you can now see my paranoia with government health care; the
  only thing worse than ethically questionable doctors making decisions
  are politicians with their own agendas)
  
  And you're right to be paranoid about the side effects of these very
  powerful drugs. In the long run, the side effects can be worse than
  the supposed disease.

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  Daniel Haszard

  10/30/09 | Report as spam

  RE: Troubled teens on powerful drugs

  
  
  
  Eli Lilly sells a drug {ZYPREXA} that can cause diabetes and then turn a profit on the drugs that treat the condition that they may have caused in the first place!
  
  Eli Lilly has made $38 billion on Zyprexa and it was way oversold and caused diabetes and in some cases sudden death.
  Eli Lilly has received a huge criminal fine over their Zyprexa cash cow,add it all up comes to $4.6 billion, in Zyprexa settlements,fines,litigation.
  
  Addictive Zyprexa was pushed by Lilly Drug Reps.
  They called it the "Five at Five" (5 mg at 5 pm to keep nursing home patients subdued and sleepy) and "VIVA ZYPREXA" (Zyprexa for everybody) campaigns to off label market Eli Lilly Zyprexa as a fix for unapproved usage.
  Eli Lilly is 'reaping the whirlwind' for aggressive marketing of Zyprexa that has caused suffering and deaths.
  There must be millions out there harmed by this drug.
  Did you know that Lilly made $ billions last year on diabetic meds, Actos,Humulin and Byetta?
  
  Yes! They sell a drug that can cause diabetes and then turn a profit on the drugs that treat the condition that they may have caused in the first place!
  ----
  Daniel Haszard http://www.zyprexa-victims.com
  
  
  
  

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  zackers

  10/31/09 | Report as spam

  RE: Troubled teens on powerful drugs

  "...while my son is fine, he doesn?t completely trust me.
  
  Can you blame him?"
  
  Well, heck, he's a teenager now. Something would be wrong if he did completely trust you.