Dana Blankenhorn

Rethinking Healthcare

The radical side in the health care debate

By Dana Blankenhorn | Sep 17, 2009 |

Health care is a right. Health care is a choice.

Between the die-hard advocates and die-hard opponents of health reform these are the key takeaways. These are their arguments boiled down to their essence.

(Shown, from Wikipedia, is the branch plaque of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, featuring a caduceus, the ancient medical staff of Greek antiquity.)

Liberals like the late Sen. Ted Kennedy argued passionately that health care is a right, that in the richest nation on Earth no one should be made to watch their child die of cancer because they can’t afford a cure.

Conservatives argue just as passionately that health care is a personal choice, a market choice. You can see these arguments, at their most eloquent, below Heather Clancy’s piece yesterday on health care as a corporate responsibility.

Which side is the more radical?

The most ancient text we have on medicine may be the Hippocratic Oath. This is part of a modern version written by Louis Lasagna of Tufts in 1964:

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

A doctor’s loyalty, in other words, is not to the market, and not to himself. It is to the patient. A doctor is called by ethics to treat the sick. Treat first and ask about money second.

It’s a bit like the Internet’s ethic to move the “precious bodily fluids” of bits first and then look into payment.

Without that ethic of act first, pay later, this medium could not exist. I am old enough to remember the 1980s, when this ethic did not apply.

The online world at that time was an elite activity for a tiny portion of the whole market. Now everyone depends on it, because of an economic model based first on service, and then on payment.

Medicine is the same way.

We know how to bend the cost curve in health care. Give doctors the power to enforce wellness guidelines. Monitor people while they are well. Don’t get fat, don’t smoke, exercise, drink moderately. Coaching you up to take better care of yourself wins the health care game.

This requires that the government change market incentives, as it did with the Internet. We need more primary care, not just doctors but nurses,  Physicians Assistants and health coaches. These coaches need data the way football coaches need game film. And everyone has to be a player in their own health game.

It’s like the “fourth freedom” of open source, a responsibility to share your code improvements with the community. This is a very controversial freedom. My open source blog is often filled with angry talkbacks asking whether this represents more freedom or less.

All the health reform plans out there — whether the Baucus plan, that of the Senate HELP committee, or the two House plans — focus on increasing access to care, based on the idea that care is a right society must be responsible for.

In this it is much like the Internet or the GPL. It follows the Hippocratic Oath. And it follows the model of every other industrial country, where costs are lower and lives longer because everyone is in the pool.

So which side in this debate is the radical one? I would argue that it’s those who call health care a choice, a matter solely of personal responsibility, something government should stay out of.

They’re telling doctors they must violate their oath and let the poor die. They’re telling those who use the Internet that our economic models are socialist. They’re telling us we can have rights without having responsibilities to one another, and that anarchy is freedom.

The opposite of government is not freedom. It is anarchy. Is Somalia free?

 
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    adornoe@...

    09/18/09 | Report as spam

    Actually, Dana, you need to go back to school...

    The opposite of government is not freedom. It is anarchy. Is Somalia free?

    Wrong!

    And, that's a very false argument and the wrong argument.

    And, why do you need to use the worst case scenario to try to make your argument? Aren't you capable of making a decent and sound and factually correct argument?

    The opposite of government is no government. Anarchy almost always leads to some form of government as soon as the "anarchists" (the people) realize that a society without rules gets them nowhere and is in reality, counterproductive. But, even in Somalia, your example, there is some form or government, even if it's of the most undesirable kind.

    Now, you are bringing up a false question with your "government versus anarchy". You're setting up a false scenario and a strawman argument.

    The question is more about "big government" and "small government". As far as I know, no one has argued for "no government", not the republicans and not the conservatives and not the libertarians. So, why bring up the false argument and frankly, a stupid one at that.

    Republicans and conservatives believe that small government is best for the country and the people and for our freedoms. Our freedoms get trampled on by each new government program enacted. The bigger the government, the less the people have control of their own lives.

    As it is, a lot of those big government programs are actually in violation of the constitution. Nowhere in the constitution does it say anything about government having the power to pass laws for health care or for social security or for housing or for education or for anything that wasn't specifically designated as a power of the national government. If any of those programs were deemed necessary, then those programs should have been passed at the local level, mostly at the state level. The 10th amendment to the constitution says that any power not "specifically" delegated to the federal government by the constitution belongs with the states or the people. But, even at the local level, no government has the right to institute programs which necessitate taking power or freedoms away from the people. Big government can be as intrusive at the national and the local levels.

    As for the "right" to health care. Yeah, the people do have to right to health care. But, having that right doesn't mean that the government has to intervene in order to get them that benefit. All that the government is needed for is to regulate and to make sure that the benefit is available to all, but it should not mandate that the people be "forced" to have it. People should be allowed to make their own choices, even if those choices end up costing them dearly, both in the pocketbooks or in the quality of their health.

    What YOU and the democrats are about is about presenting the false choices and the scaremongering. You and the democrats accuse the "opposition" of not caring and scaring the people. But, it is YOU and the democrats who can't get anything passed or done unless you use the scare tactics.

    The right is still there for the people. People have the right to choose how much insurance they need and some people even choose not to have insurance even though they can afford it. Obama came out the other day and mentioned that some 30 million people are without insurance. That figure is way below the 47 million (17million being mostly the illegal aliens) that the democrats used for the last 10 years in order to scare the people about how "dire" the situation is. Now, even the 30 million is way overstated when you also take away the number of people who can afford to purchase their own insurance but choose not to do so. In fact, there are reports that say that the real number of people who are in need of coverage and can't afford it, is somewhere between 5 and 10 million. So, should the government try to take over the whole health care system for a comparatively small number? If anything is needed for helping the small number of people without health care, then perhaps some sort of government assistance might be preferable; but certainly taking over the whole health care system is not warranted.

    In summary, what YOU do and what the democrats do is to use scare tactics and false argument in order to try to sway public opinion. or at least to justify any single-sided decisions they make. As it stands, the majority of people, according to the polls, don't want what the democrats and Obama have proposed thus far, and in reality, according to the polls, again, they don't want the government to run their health care system at all. So, it sounds to me like it is YOU and the democrats who are out of step with the American people. Take a few steps back and listen to what the American people are actually saying. And, please don't come up with the arguments that the American people aren't informed enough or that they are somehow misguided. That kind of argument is mostly reserved for governments that will try to justify or rationalize what they want to do regardless of how the people feel. That kind of government is dictatorial and frankly, not preferable to anarchy since anarchy often leads to a new beginning.

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    conspicuouschick

    09/18/09 | Report as spam

    adornoe has selective memory

    Modern-day Republican governments are just as big as anything the latter-day Democrats have thrown out there. They simply spend America's tax money on different things. To call social programs a violation of the Constitution apparently forgets one very large Republican legislative mess know as The Patriot Act. In the years since not a single member of Congress read the bill and passed it (talk about fearmongering, to use your word), American's rights have been trampled repeatedly. Many facets of the bill have already been declared unconstitutional and many more are on their way. George W. Bush spied on American citizens, a clearly illegal act that Congress retroactively approved to cover his butt.

    Yet somehow trying better this healthcare mess we're in is far worse? (notice I didn't say that I necessary support or approve of any of the current proposals).

    Health insurance tied to employment is not a choice (Crappy health insurance or no insurance? Hmm...)

    Being self-insured or eating regularly is not a valid choice.

    Filing bankruptcy because of a catastrophic illness WHILE insured - IS NOT A CHOICE.

    And you might want to consider this - all those govt programs that stifle people's freedoms include: roads, water and sewer, public education (without which you wouldn't even be literate enough to hold such flawed ideas), police and fire departments. Who do you think paid for the original infrastructure for phone and cable, and consequently the spread of the internet? ... Guess we should rescind those child-labor laws too, huh?

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    dc.martin@...

    09/18/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The radical side in the health care debate

    "... no one should be made to watch their child die of cancer because they can?t afford a cure."

    Delusional.

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    jrj001

    09/18/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The radical side in the health care debate

    No one is telling the doctor to violate their oath. That is the whole
    point...not empowering the govt to tell us all what to do. How is the
    internet Socialism? I see ads all over the place. Someone is paying for it
    somewhere and that money is generated by capitalism. Without
    Capitalism, Socialism wouldn't even be possible.

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    JohnMcGrew@...

    09/19/09 | Report as spam

    By definition, there can be no "right" to health care

    In order for health care to be a "right", resources (property or labor) must
    be forcibly taken from one citizen for the betterment of another. This is
    contrary to individual freedom and our constitution.

    Since Dana seems fond of arguing in absolutes, then I will respond in kind,
    by suggesting that by making health care, or access to any government
    redistribution a "right", Dana advocates slavery. After all, what is slavery
    but demanding that someone work for the benefit of someone else against
    their personal betterment or choice?

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    adornoe@...

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    "chick": my take is about the illogic of socialism and big government

    conspicuouschick: my take is about the illogic of socialism and big government and it certainly has nothing to do with my selective memory?

    adornoe has selective memory

    Actually, ?chick?, my memory works quite well, whether needing to be selective or inclusive.
    But, the problem you are having with my previous post has nothing to do at all with my ?selective? memory. Your problem is more with my suggestion that big government is very damaging to the constitution and America in general.
    Modern-day Republican governments are just as big as anything the latter-day Democrats have thrown out there.

    You are making too many assumptions. And you know what is said about people who ?ass-u-me?, don?t you?

    I meant what I said in my previous post and I still do now. Big government is damaging to the interests and freedoms of the people. It doesn?t matter who created big government programs, whether republicans or democrats. However, when it comes to loving ?big government? the democrats reign supreme.

    I am consistent about disliking big government. When Bush went for bigger government with his ?no child left behind? policy/bill, I and most good republicans were adamantly against it. When Bush went for even bigger government with his ?medicare drug program? I and most conservatives were true to our beliefs and complained loudly against it. Bush was not a good conservative and many of his policies grew the government. To us conservatives, he was a traitor to good conservative principles. But, with good 20/20 hindsight, we can now determine that Bush was not a conservative and was actually more of a liberal when it came to social issues. In the least, Bush was what we conservatives refer to as RINOs (Republican In Name Only). Most RINOs don?t believe in small government and they are actually liberal-light. So was Bush 41, the father. They both were liberal-light when it came to domestic social issues.

    So, I?m not using any kind of ?selective memory? in recalling how much I disliked what Bush was doing with his ?liberal? side. Bush did get those liberal programs passed with the help of a lot of democrats and a lot of RINOs in both the senates and in the house. In all cases, I was consistent in my argument against those programs. Selective memory had nothing to do with how I felt about what Bush was doing.

    They simply spend America's tax money on different things.

    I?m not going to lie. I voted for Bush both times. But, I certainly wasn?t going to vote for the people whose whole lives were consistently dedicated to growing the government, and I?m talking about Gore and Kerry.

    If I had known ahead of time that Bush was a big government proponent when it came to social issues, I still would?ve voted for him over the others, mostly because when it came to national security, the republican was/is always stronger in matters of defense and foreign policy.

    To call social programs a violation of the Constitution apparently forgets one very large Republican legislative mess know as The Patriot Act.

    The Patriot Act was legally drawn and enacted by all the branches of the government. And, when in times of war, the presidency is always granted special powers to carry out whatever is needed to conduct wars, sometimes even at the risk of taking away some of the ?freedoms? of the people. The Patriot Act, even with all its problems was a necessary piece of legislation which helped keep the country safe after the disastrous attacks of 9/11. And even now, all of the pieces of the Patriot Act have been kept intact by the Obama administration; so, in that case, who is being the ?selective? one? The democrats have had control of the congress for about 3 years and they?ve made no attempt to repeal the Patriot Act. In fact, they don?t even want to mention it and Obama has indicated that the law is going to remain intact with no new changes. So, in the final analysis, what the democrats were all about when it came to the Patriot Act was in using it to demonize Bush for purely partisan political gains. Now that they have the control, they don?t even want to talk about that law. Such hypocrites!

    In the years since not a single member of Congress read the bill and passed it (talk about fearmongering, to use your word),

    Wrong!

    The act has been read and taken apart and examined by just about anybody that wanted to ?demonize? the Bush administration. Every single line of the act has been examined by friend and foe of the legislation. And, the fear-mongering that you talk about was not as much present when the bill was being debated and passed. The fear-mongering occurred later when the democrats realized that by demonizing the act that they could possibly gain political advantage for the next election cycle. But, even they, when it came to voting, voted for the act when it was put up for passage.

    American's rights have been trampled repeatedly.

    Garbage!

    Unless you are one of those targeted by the Patriot Act, your rights didn?t get affected at all. If you were part of the terrorist network working to harm America, or if you were connected at all with them, then you would have been affected. As of yet, nobody, not even you, can point to anyone that lost any of his or her rights through the Patriot Act.

    Many facets of the bill have already been declared unconstitutional and many more are on their way. George W. Bush spied on American citizens, a clearly illegal act that Congress retroactively approved to cover his butt.

    ?Retroactively?? What nonsense!

    The act was passed shortly after 9/11 and in response to a ?war? that was needed. It was a war powers act and most of the congress voted for it. In the areas where it was thought to intrude on anybody?s rights, it was corrected; but even now, nobody can point to anyone, other than those connected to terrorism, who was harmed or had his ?rights? trampled upon. If you can actually name any, then do so for the enlightenment of the people here.

    Yet somehow trying better this healthcare mess we're in is far worse? (notice I didn't say that I necessary support or approve of any of the current proposals).

    It?s not just ?somehow?; it?s a ?reality? that big government programs always grow the size of government. And it doesn?t matter how much anyone wants to justify or rationalize any new government program.

    Furthermore, it doesn?t matter that you didn?t come straight out for its defense and say that the health care program was a good and necessary thing. Your whole posturing and direction says that you are indeed a supporter of health care.

    Health insurance tied to employment is not a choice (Crappy health insurance or no insurance? Hmm...)

    Health insurance should be a personal choice and a person has a ?right? to it if he/she wants it, whether from an employer or directly from his pocket. It should not be denied to any person that wants it; but the person should have the means of affordability. It should not be a government mandated ?option?. When government intervenes, there is no ?freedom? in the choice.

    Being self-insured or eating regularly is not a valid choice.

    You are presenting a false argument. Anybody that wants health insurance and can afford it can get it. The 47 million of ?uninsured? that the democrats use to try to ?scare? the people into action is a made up number. The real number, according to better studies done by analysts is closer to between 5 and 10 million. As such, there is no crisis. And, if there is a need to cover those 5-10 million, that doesn?t necessitate the government take over the whole health care system to do so. The only reason that the democrats want nationalized health care is to gain more control over the people and of their votes.
    Filing bankruptcy because of a catastrophic illness WHILE insured - IS NOT A CHOICE.
    Again, you?re presenting the worst case scenario as justification for taking control of 1/6th of the U.S. economy. That argument won?t fly and the majority of the people, according to the polls, are not buying your argument.

    Approximately how many people in the U.S., on a yearly basis, have to file for bankruptcy because they can?t afford to pay their medical bills? And, of those that do file for bankruptcy, how many of them could?ve purchased health insurance but decided not to do so?

    If the problems is with ?catastrophic? health care or with very high medical bills, then perhaps the only need is for ?catastrophic? coverage in a health care at additional cost, but still not with government control of the system.

    And you might want to consider this - all those govt programs that stifle people's freedoms include: roads, water and sewer, public education (without which you wouldn't even be literate enough to hold such flawed ideas), police and fire departments.

    Bogus and flawed arguments!

    First off, those programs on your list are of the local variety, even education. Inasmuch as those are clearly local issues, the federal or national government is not involved or should not be involved. The main issue with ?big government? is at the federal level where most of the big government that?s being talked about and most of big government that exists now, are clearly unconstitutional. We are talking, again, about the federal level of government and about the constitution of the U.S., not the state levels of government and state constitutions. With national level mandates, the people are left with no state choices.

    Sure, there are things that government has to be involved in, but that doesn?t mean that they need to run the programs. Each one of those programs that you listed are being run by ?civilians?. The government is there just to collect and distribute the funding of those programs. So, who is to say that without government intervention that those programs and projects would not get done more efficiently and at lesser costs? In fact, education is a program which has been demonstrated as being able to get run better and with less money. There are many private education institutions that have consistently done a better job in educating our kids than the government. In fact, the voucher programs at state and local levels were intended to take ?government? funding for private schools to do the ?teaching?. And in fact, many of those schools that took the vouchers were able to do a better job of teaching and at much less expense than the public school system from which those students came. But, noticing the success of such schools, the democrats have decided to pull the voucher programs because they didn?t want the competition when the competition was proving to be doing much better job of teaching the kids. If more of those programs proved to be more successful than the state or federally controlled systems, then a lot more people would end up taking their kids out of the public school system, but no, the democrats need to make sure that the government is in control of education and with that they would get the education union votes. The NEA is a very powerful lobby in Washington which can win the democrats many elections, and so, the children?s quality of education is sacrificed for partisan political reasons and for votes.

    Now, when there are shared resources, such as water lines and sewers, the only need is for a common collection system. That doesn?t mean a government tax system. We have common shared resources with the electric grid and with the telephone companies. But, it seems that the government doesn?t need to be involved in those systems. And those systems offer competition whereas with a government system, there would be just one provider, and as we?ve witnessed over the decades, the government services are crappy and expensive and in many cases, going broke.

    Who do you think paid for the original infrastructure for phone and cable, and consequently the spread of the internet? ... Guess we should rescind those child-labor laws too, huh?

    Who invented the automobile? Who invented the telephone? Who invented the television? Who invented the airplane? It wasn?t the government.

    The only area where the government is needed is in the provision of the environment where the free market can take their products and services and make them work for the people and for economic growth. The government may take federal or local funding to assist in the growth of a particular economic or industrial sector, but that still does not mean that the government should take control and run whatever the system or sector or industry.
    The government can be there for oversight and for rules and regulations and for the laws which apply to businesses, but other than that, it should butt out of the everyday running of businesses. The private sector has always proved to be better at running any business or any industry. The government has always proved to be very inefficient and very wasteful and higher priced than the free-market system.

    So, can you name any government run program that is run efficiently and is not wasteful of the people?s taxes and that is self-sustainable?
    What happens to a country?s economic system when most of the important businesses or industries are run and controlled by government? What happens to initiatives and incentivized production? Once the people don?t have an incentive to be creative and to invent and grow an economy, what happens to wealth creation? What happens to job creation? With less and less wealth as time goes on, the government itself will be seeing decreasing tax revenue and eventually the whole system collapses. The problem with people like you is that you?re very short-sighted and can?t extrapolate or see into the future, even to the immediate future where the immediate effect of government control means job losses which the government won?t be able to bring back. The private sector and the capitalist system is where the most jobs and businesses are created. No government has ever been better at producing economic growth than the private sector, especially in America. Socialism and communism have always failed everywhere where they?ve been tried, even if it sometimes takes 50 or 70 years for the people and the government to realize their mistakes.

    Wake up before it?s too late for yourself and your children and the American people.







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    bradsl@...

    09/19/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The radical side in the health care debate

    Dana, what a load of tripe.

    No one anywhere should have to watch their child die of cancer (rich nation or not), but unfortunately it happens in-spite of having unlimited access to the most advanced medicines on earth. Your supposition is that insurance equals cure, and that there's no access without insurance. Both premises are just not true.

    Health care is a personal choice, and constitutionally must remain so. This is known as "Freedom of Association".

    If health care becomes a corporate responsibility (read: government controlled) then people are forced through the law (violence) to comply or suffer the consequences. Where has central control ever been effective, efficient, or sustainable in the long run?

    Your analogy about the "Internet Ethic" is also bogus. I've been around as long as you, and don't remember a time where I did not have to pay for access, nor did ANY of the major backbone carriers every give it away. I helped start an ISP and can assure you we paid for every KB that crossed the wire.

    "Government change market incentives"... and this will give us more primary care, nurses, physician assistants, and health coaches? How? All it will do is all that government interference with the market ever does: distort the feedback mechanism, so that nobody ever makes the right decisions for the right reasons.

    Your "Open Source" analogy is also bogus. Why? Because Open Source is a cooperative venture among volunteers who believe that sharing their time, expertise, and resources is beneficial to their community. IT IS NOT GOVERNMENT MANDATED OR CONTROLLED. If you want to take the Open Source approach to health care, maybe that would be worth discussing!

    You state that "costs are lower and lives longer" in other countries with single-payer health care. Health care costs may be lower, but I've seen no evidence that there is a direct correlation to longer live span. Certainly taxes over-all as a portion of income is much higher in those countries.

    "... telling doctors they must violate their oath and let the poor die"... how dramatic. How silly. I know doctors and nurses here in the U.S. who volunteer to go to third-world countries to help the truly poor and disenfranchised. You need to get some perspective. Why do you automatically think that a "Government Solution" is the only viable solution? Why do you want to be like all the nations around us. They wanted to make George Washington our first Emperor so we could be like all the other nations. We chose a different path, and the world watched in amazement as this tiny colony beat the largest empire in the world. They watched with envy as we became the most prosperous. We did all that with a very small and relatively powerless central government. Why don't we do something truly innovative and lead the world once again? I guarantee you it won't originate with government.

    @conspicuouschick, your are right that Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. Both believe that taxpayer money is free money, and that government can solve all the problems that beset mankind. I can make a very good argument that there is not one of the government programs you mention that could not be replaced with a private alternative that would be more cost effective, more responsive to customer demands, and more innovative. Oh, and you might want to do a little more research on the "infrastructure" thing. The government does not pay for anything. Tax payers do.

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Dana Blankenhorn

Dana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for nearly 25 years and has covered the online world professionally since 1985. He founded the Interactive Age Daily for CMP Media, and has written for the Chicago Tribune, Advertising Age's "NetMarketing" supplement, and dozens of other publications over the years.

Dana Blankenhorn

Dana Blankenhorn has been a technology reporter since 1982, a business reporter since 1978, and a writer for as long as he can remember. His Schwab IRA has a few tech stocks in it, most notably some Intel and Applied Materials bought over 10 years ago. But the vast majority of his tiny fortune (emphasis on the word tiny) is invested in mutual funds. He presently writes for no one else but ZDNet, SmartPlanet and himself. But if you've got an opportunity let him know. If he takes the gig he"ll first add it to this disclosure page.
Rethinking Healthcare examines innovation in the health care industry covering topics such as electronic and personal health records, treatment, privacy, regulation and using information technology to manage and monitor chronic conditions.