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    <title><![CDATA[Discussion on The two-timing white knight of U.S. rare earth metals ]]></title>
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        <title><![CDATA[You can't have it both ways....]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9727-96683]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[If you don't like the Chinese producing the stuff cheap then be prepared to deal with the radioactive tailings yourself and pay higher commodity prices for your own domestically produced rare earth supplies.  In the broader context of global natural resources, who the hell is going around the globe invading countries and murdering the people  to seize control their OIL?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[anthonymaw]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:27:00 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Restarting the Rare Earth global supply]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9727-90974]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[China's cheap &amp; environmentally dirty rare earth industry made Molycorp unprofitable, so they sold their mining equipment to China. China became sensitive to the very serious pollution &amp; supply exhaustion if they carry on being a 97% global supplier. So they started cleaning up their mining &amp; processing, &amp; made explicit moves to keep prices up. This should give Molycorp &amp; other rare earth miners the breathing space required to restart rare earth mining &amp; processing. In effect, China is a guardian of rare earths to ensure they don't get wasted on pointless uses. This is a very good thing. We just need to re-establish rare earth industries around the globe. If private enterprise fails to do this, governments have got to step in to ensure they start up and stay up.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Edwina Lee]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:16:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Chinese intentions]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Whew!  Thanks, rhodez. Now maybe I can learn to stop worrying and and love the Chinese.By the way, China shut off Japan's rare earth supply because Japan seized a Chinese 'fishing boat' that was nosing around some disputed islands claimed by both nations, a matter of import not because of fishing rights but, rather, because of implications for territorial waters and undersea reaources.Still, I can't help but wonder, given your summary of the geopolitical situation vis-a'-vis the PRC and how ridiculous it is to even imagine that those fine folks would want conflict with the US, why would this beneficent trading partner publicly announce -- in the state-run 'The Global Times', no less -- that  it is aggressively seeking to develop anti-carrier weaponry, including anti-ship ballistic missiles with the stated rationale that &quot;Since US aircraft carrier battle groups in the Pacific constitute deterrence against China's strategic interests, China has to possess the capacity to counterbalance.&quot;http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/is-china-gearing-up-to-start-world-war-iii/9368I mean, the whole Pacific Ocean? That's kind of ominous, right? Not the Taiwan Strait: the whole freakin' Pacific Ocean! You know, where Hawaii is?You have to wonder, what &quot;strategic interests&quot; are we deterring? And, since aircraft carriers are our (the US) premier force-projection weapons platform, and we have more than twice as many as the rest of the world combined, it seems a bit silly for them to rattling this sabre at us, But this is the same folks who believe they could survive a massive nuclear exchange.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[cdmsr]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 01:54:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[simple solutions to molycorp monopoly]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[a strong president only has to make one phone call to the CEO of molycorp and discuss two scenarios...1)  mine the rare metals and the vast majority is sold to our domestic market, or 2) threaten to implement existing environmental laws or pass new environmental laws in Colorado that in essence will make it unprofitable to mine anything more from that mine.  We could also threaten to impose export taxes on minerals that are needed in the national interest.  congress has the authority to tax businesses too.   There is always the possibility to find ways in other mining states to make it easier for Molycorp competitors to get established if its in the national interest.  the long term solution is to open up more mines in other states, fund them with in exchange to sell a certain amount to american industry.  There are lots of ways to work around this if our politicians want to.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[monacoet]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 05:15:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[How do we turn all this information...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9727-66824]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[... into actionable items? What can and should we do to protect the US from foreign interests owning more than is an acceptable level? What exactly is that acceptable level and why? What branch of the government should be pursuing any of these actionable items and who (public figure) from that branch specifically should be paying attention to these concerns and why aren't they? Has anyone asked?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Slamshifter]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 08:06:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It is of course ridiculous to imagine that China wants conflict with the US]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9727-66743]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[We've been in conflict with China for 35 years, it's called a trade war. What we have today under the name &quot;free trade&quot; isn't free trade at all. It's free coming into the U.S. because our market is about 98% open to the world, but in the other direction, it's not. It's mostly merchantilism: gaming the system. Foreign governments understand, as ours does not, that international trade is an arena of national rivalry, and they play the game in their own national interests. Our government is hostage to an outdated 19th-century economic theory of global harmony, and on this basis conducts our trade relations with blissful naivet??.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted23]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:07:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[free markets]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Some illogical bloviating going on here. The whole point of new rare earth mines opening (also in Australia) is so that no one country controls access or availability. Since a huge amount of what the US (and the rest of the western world) imports is made in China, there is no reason not to export to them. But Japan is the next biggest user--again mostly for products that are exported--and this was the problem when China restricted exports (for whatever reasons). As noted in the article Japan will be taking a very large fraction of the US output.......It is of course ridiculous to imagine that China wants conflict with the US. It is in fact the exact opposite: there are plenty of far-right American war-mongers who see that promoting this notion is the way to keep the MIC rolling along, consuming trillions of dollars of your deficit budget.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rhodez]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 23:13:50 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Molycorp is under(mining) our economy]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[When shareholder profits take precedence over industrial policy or lack of, this is the end result. I would support a charter revocation of Molycorp.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted23]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:12:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Communist Enemies]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yea, just go and kill a commie for Christ.Try to read their alleged Communist Manifesto.It's quite boring, but no mention of the USA.How come that so much of the USA is owned by these commies.They seem to be better at capitalism than communism.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[kwickset@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:43:21 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[China]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Perhaps you should do some homework yourself and get off your high and mighty horse.  China's policy towards the U.S. is, to eventually destroy us.  It's part of their communist manifesto.  Pretty much ANY country that is communist can be considered an enemy country to the U.S..  Communist nations DO NOT LIKE countries that are free, if that's what you can call the U.S. nowdays.  Either way, China owns quite a bit of the U.S. now, especially with all the trillions that we owe them....]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tinman57]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:29:25 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Chinese price support for re-opening US rare earth mine]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hmm.  That doesn't sound so bad, considering the falling prices of rare earth minerals.  When they *remove* that support, it may be necessary for western governments to step in and do their bit:)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ervassar]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:09:06 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Enemy Country?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Since when is China an enemy country?Did China become an enemy country after it got rid of its colonisers?Is the USA an enemy country from the Chinese perspective?If they are enemy countries why trade with them?Are they both committing treason?Oh yes, there was Vietnam as an enemy country.Did Vietnam become an enemy country after it got rid of its colonisers?Did the Vietnamese attack the USA or did they just happen to have lots of resources to be attacked for and therefore became an enemy country?Did all countries who dispensed with the colonial powers become enemy countries?Seems like you are a typical american as perceived by the rest of the world.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[kwickset@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:47:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Strategic Material designation]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Congress has the authority to declare rare earths a 'strategic material.' With this designation comes the authority to forbid exportation. They should use it!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[decryobliviots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:37:58 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You are wrong]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Once the lease is signed, which presumably gives the lessee the mineral rights, the lessee can sell the minerals just about any where it wants. Legal possession of the minerals (or oil and gas in the case of drilling rights) goes to the lessee once the lease is signed. If you want to change that, it will require major changes in US law and reverse legal precedent since the day the US was founded.However, there are some general restrictions having to do with countries such as North Korea, Iran, and even China when it comes to militarily sensitive products, but currently Canada (the intermediary) is not covered. Selling what could be construed as militarily sensitive materials to China this way is a very tricky issue, and it has been coming up a lot recently. But interpreting ownership of the ore in the way you want would just open up a can of worms far outside this issue and is not the way to deal with it.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[zackers]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:06:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The mine is on public land]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[So far as I can tell from US Government maps, the mine is on public land managed by the Bureau of Land Management.   That means the ore is public property.  Polycorp may have paid for a lease and may be paying royalties on the ore extracted (though it is likely not nearly what it is worth), but that doesn't change the ownership of the minerals themselves.  If I am right and they belong to US, then the minerals should be mined and sold for the benefit of the American people, not just for the owners and shareholders of Polycorp.  (Of course, if the mine is actually on private land, then they have only a moral obligation not to sell to China.)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[vakeris@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:49:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Do Not Be Amazed OR Confused]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9727-66724]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[It is called Capitalism in a Free Market economy.  Exactly what the Republican slimebags running for President want for us all, Right?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[zclayton3]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:28:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[do not be amazed or confused]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9727-66715]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[another reason to dislike the man who was called the &quot;first black president&quot;..&quot;bill clinton&quot;]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[vonrock]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:21:37 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[NAFTA]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If I understand the arrangement correctly, Molycorp (a US company) is selling their product through a subsidiary corporation, Neo Material Technologies (a Canadian company) that ultimately sells the products to Chinese manufacturers.To my knowledge the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) would prevent tariff to be imposed on the product that is sent from the US to Canada.  Additionally, the US has no ability to impose Tariffs upon goods that are exported from Canada, regardless of their destination.So it looks like Molycorp will sell their minerals to buyers outside of the US because NAFTA and other such forward looking policies have already exported most of the manufacturing facilities and jobs.  And the US will not be able to control the exportation of our natural resources or even receive compensation through tariffs because of these same trade policies.Good thinking.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[james.graham@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:02:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[National Security]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It amazes me that the federal government would allow the export of ANY rare earths to known enemy countries.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ardavidson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:15:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Treason For Profit?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You take a difficult to find commodity that is much needed by the country you live in, but sell it to another nation who already has a virtual monopoly, how is that NOT &quot;Treason For Profit&quot;?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[DrRexDexter]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:11:18 -0700</pubDate>
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