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        <title><![CDATA[Let's not forget...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-69389]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[... that most of YOUR so-called &quot;experts&quot; suffer from the same problem: they are not climatologists.And yet that doesn't stop YOU from citing their words as fact, does it? So why won't you extend that VERY SAME COURTESY to us?And, as a matter of fact, in this case the geologist is also citing, at almost EVERY MOMENT in his videos, the fact that the CLIMATOLOGISTS came up with the theories he's citing. In fact, one does not need to do the research oneself, in order to publicize that research. OUR scientists act this way.YOURS, on the other hand, like Fred Singer, simply &quot;make up ****,&quot; and then sell it to us on their own say-so. I just watched an old vid from the Gore era, where Singer points out the temperature rise over the 1920s and '40s, and then says &quot;but that was before industrialization.&quot; Not so.What Singer seems to have forgotten, is that the World Wars both happened early in the century, and that there was no precedent whatsoever, for the massive industrialization that occurred for that purpose, much less the burning of cities like Dresden and the rest.Really, it's all about the questions one asks...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:54:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[&quot;Kinds&quot; of memory, I see...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-69398]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[YOUR &quot;kind&quot; of memory evidently puts importance on the fleeting media chatter that any disaster produces; and for some reason, takes that chatter as an indication of real scientific opinion ... rather than a splash of for-profit-media, looking up the most sensational stories to give their sponsors &quot;credibillity.&quot;OUR kind of memory is not so fleeting. WE fund science meant to define the past with ever-increasing accuracy, and we don't rule out ANY relevant data -- as you do, when you bring an accusation, but then cannot credit a clear, cogent rebuttal based in the numbers.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:43:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The &quot;little ice age&quot; was a LOCAL phenomonen...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Science has now shown this, by pursuing natural global means of measurement from the period. It cooled Northern Europe (where the thermometers were, duh), but it didn't cool the whole planet. If averages are plotted, the little ice age succumbs to the mean data.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:37:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Witness the parade of deniers here...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-69388]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[... and then tell me things are likely to get any better...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:33:15 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Science HAS shown...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[That both the warming AND cooling &quot;spells&quot; you cite were geographically LOCAL phenomena (to be clear: NOT global in scope) that did NOT affect the AVERAGE TEMPERATURE at all over time. This has been the challenge set to Climatology by you and yours, and the climatologists have gone to great lengths to now ANSWER that question for you.But we see now, that the question itself was a blind, as you are now demonstrating that you will not accept the answers in any case.And, the &quot;peaks&quot; you cite were nowhere near the highs of today. We are well into a new era of steadily growing temperatures. How hot will it have to get, before you accept the clear implications of it? And just how far PAST the critical-change threshhold will your denial timeline take us?Or, to put it another, perhaps more SANE way: just how F*cked ARE we, thanks to YOU?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:29:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[One question.  What qualifies him to discuss this topic?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-66957]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[He is not a paleoclimatologist, nor has had any formal training in the field.He is a TV actor, turned geologist, turned documentary actor.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Stewart_(geologist)His documentaries on global warming regurgitate much of the same tripe as seen elsewhere.  He adds nothing of scientific merit to the discussion.  He is an actor with a degree filling a role.Not really someone to be quoted as an expert.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:51:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Wait a minute.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Little Ice Age 1550 - 1850 (NASA definition)Industrial Revolution 1750 - 1850.If all that carbon polution pulled the world out of an ice age in just 100 years, why did not we not keep warming as rapidly after 1850?How come the Northwest Passage was being sailed 90+% through in the 1850s and suddenly it was locked in ice for a 100 years until now?Did global warming science stop working?If your argument was valid than global temperatures should be far hotter now than they are.So why did the rapid temperature climb stop?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:09:04 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Isn't it interesting...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-63204]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[...that those most vocal about the &quot;crisis&quot; are the ones who demonstratively aren't about to give up any of their &quot;freedoms&quot;?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:50:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[If there's one thing that can be said for the warmist community...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...it's that they have very short memories, and assume the same for the rest of us.  Clearly, you've forgotten the immediate post-Katrina rhetoric that had had the US being hit by an increasing number of large storms in the season immediately after Katrina.We're still waiting.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:46:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Extreme weather does have something to do with climate change]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[John, the question is not how many Cat-3 hurricanes have hit the continental US (CONUS) since Katrina but how many Cat-3 hurricanes there have been regardless of where they occur.  Whether they hit the CONUS is just a matter of random chance.  For instance the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season was the third most active in the records and had 12 hurricanes of which 5 were Cat-3 or above.  None of them hit the CONUS.Global warming increases the level of energy in the Earth's climate.  How could you think that wouldn't manifest itself in changes in weather?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[riverat1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:07:16 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I invite you all to watch this.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62846]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[This are a series of videos by a geologist, Ian Stewart. See how they prove all your Nay-sayers theories. He also show how you nay-sayers admit it is warming. Admit it, you do not want it to be true because you fear you will lose your freedoms!!! But if you do not give you some of your freedoms, you will lose your planet! Where are you going to live? Where is your food and water going to come from? Climate change will change all this!http://documentaryheaven.com/earth-the-climate-wars-pt-13/http://documentaryheaven.com/earth-the-climate-wars-pt-23/http://documentaryheaven.com/hot-planet/]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Juanalberto33]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:26:48 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[adding on to this!]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62861]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Sam, even if this has happened before, did it happen this fast... w are talking about a century here, not 10,000 years, just about 100 years. Watch Climate Wars :http://documentaryheaven.com/earth-the-climate-wars-pt-23/ and see how a &quot;geologist&quot; proves every one of the nay-sayer theories wrong!!!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Juanalberto33]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:17:27 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Really II]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62709]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[&quot;Entire&quot;?  Hardly - but woe to the ones who do speak up against the man-made hoax.  It's not politically correct and their careers are slashed and burned for being politically incorrect.  The climate changes and cycles all the time - except THIS time Gore et. al. have figured a way to milk the sheeples.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GregGold]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:12:54 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Really?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62619]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[What is better financed that &quot;climate science&quot; itself?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:11:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[&quot;Extreme weather&quot; has nothing to do with &quot;climate change&quot;.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[And there really hasn't even been much in the way of &quot;extreme&quot; weather either.  It's all hype.  For example, how many Category-3 hurricanes have hit the continental US since Katrina?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:07:03 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not that simple]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62622]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Do you have a couple of years to study up on it so you can really understand the argument?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[riverat1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:15:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[How do you know?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62605]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Can you prove it isn't natural?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam202]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:58:55 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[no, it's not natural]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62564]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[There have been natural cycles in the past, but this isn't one of them.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[sciencegal2528]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:26:08 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[climate change deniers]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62554]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[The research and academic communities need to wake up and realize that there are scores of people, using different alieases, who are either paid to stalk scientific sites (including SCIENCE and NATURE magazine websites) and post contrarian, non-scientific garbage. This is just part of the organized and extremely well-financed campaign to discredit climate science. There is nothing wrong with expressing economic/political perspectives about whether or not taking action against climate change is economically feasible, useful, etc. But instead denialists are trying to convince the public that the entire scientific community is colluding to lie and mislead them. In addition to being manifestly impossible (given the nature of scientists and the scientific community) is patently and demonstrably false.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[LevineJJS]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:24:55 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Global]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-9020-62551]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Good grief!  Does anyone with any sense still doubt that Global Warming is not only real, but the extreme weather events predicted by the best models have been happening with regularity.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[NadaWolf]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:43:04 -0800</pubDate>
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