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    <title><![CDATA[Discussion on Climate change may incite aliens to destroy humanity, NASA warns ]]></title>
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        <title><![CDATA[LOL]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yes, I agree!  You have just made me smile.  Thanks.   Bill Watterson has a lot of unrecognized wisdom indeed!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:08:10 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Wow, finally someone who has actually read it ...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-88825]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[I congratulate you for probably being in the minuscule percentile who has both the attention span and intelligence to actually read a paper before going off into wild speculations about it.Apparently my 90% estimate does in fact hold true ... lol   I may have been too conservative actually, hmm...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:05:27 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Man, is more self-important, then they think.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-88824]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[The real fact is that a planet is not all that aware of the life upon it any more than you are aware of the millions of bacteria copulating and defecating all over your face on a daily basis.   :P]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:58:52 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I have realized that education has little or nothing to do with wisdom]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-88823]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Most people like to prove themselves by waving small pieces of paper about, either money, or some educational certificate.  The sad fact is that just because someone has either of those, very rarely means they have any form of wisdom at all.  It is my opinion that at least 90% of humanity is woefully inadequate at common sense and capable thinking.  9% invents everything, and 1% controls the rest.  So much for &quot;equality&quot;.If aliens did come here, they would have a reason; most likely for resources.  Water is cheap, it is everywhere, so is most metals, and others elements.  What do we have here, that is NOT easily found elsewhere.  That is what they would be coming here for.   Well, we have cheap labour, abundant genetic material, plant life, and many ecosystems that can be studied and experimented upon.Hopefully if they did come here, they would try to educate us before doing something radical.  Humans are very quick learners.  If you gave us any technology, we would adopt it within 20 years and start to improve upon it; no matter how far advanced it was.  We are only now ( in the last 10 years) reall making large and steady strides in molecular and materials science.  We are just starting within the the realms of creating molecules and substances for specific needs and with nanoscale engineering.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:53:51 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I find it very amusing...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-88822]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[... that many of these amusing articles put the American foreign policy into the minds of aliens and such.  Hopefully a race that has reached such a level of technology has learned from their own mistakes and believes in respecting others and their freedoms.  But, if it was the US who were the interstellar travellers, they would &quot;bomb them for peace&quot; and such moronic childish behaviour.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:33:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[more citations needed please.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Again, I would really like to see some reputable publications with this research so that I may learn also.  Obviously you got them from somewhere, we would like to see where YOU got those numbers.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:30:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Alien destruction of Earth population]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-88810]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[I guess some people feel that they must let their mind wander. Seems to me that it would be better to work on something positive rather than contribute a lot of baloney, messing up the universe. with baloney bits. I mean, all of this is going out in messages taking up memory space, some people are probably printing it up to show their friends and relatives (more pollution). I seriously don't think that we need such a thing.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[radiodog4@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:17:19 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[citations needed ...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Why is that people pull these numbers out then never back them up with reliable citations?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Seymour-Howell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:16:41 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Volcanoe nonsense]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Volcanoes leave a C13 signature in their CO2 emissions.Natural recent decay processes leave a C14 trace in their CO2 emissions.Fossil fuel combustion leaves no C13, or C14 traces in its CO2 emissions.Because fossil fuels are so ancient the C14 has long decayed away.So measure the percentage ratios of C12, C13, C14 in the atmosphere and compare with older and ancient ice samples and voila C13 and C14 are falling, which means almost all the CO2 increase is coming fossil fuels.The new CO2 from volcanoes (containing C13) is closer to a hundred times smaller than the general CO2 increase from fossil fuels.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[energy_guy]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:50:35 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Reading some of the comments makes me think of  ...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-83307]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[&quot;Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.&quot; Calvin &amp; Hobbes (Bill Watterson)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Mouseboy007]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:23:28 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Most likely exterminate us no matter what the environmental impact]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If the aliens have FTL capability, then we stand a chance of their being benevolent.  From what we know about physics, FTL capability isn't likely.  Which means they come here, it's a one way trip.  And nobody would come this far one way without planning on it being a colonization venture.  Which means competition for resources.Which means war, and whomever wins wipes out the losers.Since they came here, and are in space, they have the technological advantage AND the high ground.Odds are we'd lose, fast and badly.Biggest reason I know of to support ALL space exploration, development, energy, and propulsion technologies; governmental, corporate, and private.Otherwise, we're likely to all end up like the Tano.Gone.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr_Zinj]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:47:25 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[we are here already]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[^vn_{*#]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[FuzzyIce]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:01:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[War of Worlds]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Preposterous. If little green men exist they would be more concerned with us not destroying our planet. If we kill ourselves off we are less of a long term threat to them. Why on earth would they wish to punish us for doing the job for them?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[IMWeira]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:58:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Already read that story]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think I already read that story...can't remember if it was Azimov or Clarke though...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tech_ed@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:32:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[More examples of stupidity on the part of the public]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-51233]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Hello, Public.How many of you actually read this paper? The WHOLE thing? Do you realize that the media jumped on what amounted to a few paragraphs of 28 page paper on beneficial, harmful, and neutral scenarios of encounters with other life in the universe? This isn't fringey ******** science. This is something people think about and do research on, in a field called Astrobiology (or Exobiology.) These people ARE educated in Earth's natural history (as someone below assumed they were not.) Exploring the possibilities of things like microbes on mars does eventually lead to questions and pondering about other types of life elsewhere in the universe. Just because something does not have an immediate concrete use, does not mean it isn't valuable. Also, it's quite easy to complain about forgotten details after the fact, when someone else has done all of the footwork. Don't agree with this paper? Great! The scientific process suggests that you write up your own paper with your own expertise and submit it to a journal as a rebuttal.I should not &quot;Google&quot; the coverage of this article anymore because it makes me far too angry. My advice to you: read the paper first. It is YOU, the public, who are not thinking, rather than the scientists. The purpose of this paper was apparently lost on most of you. You, who live in a highly literal world and live a reactionary sheeplike existence. Of course, an alien encounter may be very unlikely. It may not be. Regardless, this is a philosophical exploration of what it might mean for humanity and our place in the universe if other life was discovered. This paper is an independent, unfunded project of three friends that they did in their very limited free time who wanted to propose an interesting idea to what now appears to me to be a humanist, self absorbed, simple minded society. So much for curious thought experiments that might help usher in a perspective shift.The anti-intellectual sentiment in the world today greatly disturbs me. I find it even in circles where I would least expect it.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[youreallbeingdumb]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:14:10 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I think Paul Krugman suggested that.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-7175-50643]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Hardly the wackiest thing he's come up with.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:31:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[no fear of stupid aliens]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I would hope that any species capable of figuring out the technology/science behind travelling millions of miles, millions of light years to come to our planet would also be equally as capable of having mastered solar/neutrino-powered self-replicating nanotechnology to such a degree that they can use our planet's primary power-sources (the sun, neutrinos, radioactive decay from our core, simple background radiation) to supply them the energy necessary to break our planet's materials down to their base properties (protons, neutrons, electrons, quarks-even further down if so their science prove this to be the case) and recombine them in anyway they see fit to do so.  Such that, they can not only change our atmosphere and/or our planet into any shape form or function that they desire, but also do so in such a way that whatever condition they may come to said planet (ours in this case) and find it in, any readjustment from that base condition is seen as a mere inconvenience, and not one worth of intervening on previous to this terraforming.   Basically, I think we aren't even comparable to an 'ant hill in africa' to butcher the line from the movie Contact.  Thus, no sleep lost here.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Vailhem@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:42:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[curb our greenhouse gas emissions in order to prevent aliens from blowing u]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Which aliens?  What about the aliens who live on a colder planet that need a warmer planet to grow their food, as in &quot;Teenagers From Outer Space&quot;?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:22:37 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You want to outlaw volcanoes??? Or just &amp;quot;kill&amp;quot; them?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[As for Your question about where the aliens were 65 million years ago: They were here resqueing the mammals from extinction, and brought them back 1209 years later to repopulate the earth.You seem to miss the whole point: we make hundreds of species go extinct every year because on our ignorance and carelessness. We do not have to do that. If I was an alien and saw what humanity is doing to this planet I might make some &quot;cleanup&quot; plans as well. It's not just about global warming, that's just a tiny fraction of what we do wrong. It's about destroying, killing, ruining, polluting etc. And we do it on purpose.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Dukhalion]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 13:38:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Faster to extinction?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Why go back millions and billions of years?  We know there is also a 25,000-year earth cycle.  We know the earth' ecological balance must stay in balance.   Man???s actions is changing this balance.We may not by our own actions create the temperatures you mentioned, but that is not the problem.  Our actions are changing the climate, faster than if nature itself would have made these changes.  This is the problem; some people stick their heads in the sand not to see the problem for the sake of the almighty dollar and self-gratification they can get today.???I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about that tomorrow.???  Tomorrow may be too late!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rl@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:08:24 -0700</pubDate>
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