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        <title><![CDATA[thanks for sharing]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Great!!! thanks for sharing this information to us! sesli chat   sesli sohbet]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[yarinsiz]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:28:43 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[quit hiding yourself]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-6574-46933]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[The Earth is not billions and billions of years old there is no absolute proof of that anymore than there is that it is only around 10000 years old.  Just as there is no absolute proof of evolution, because when you take away your billions and billions then there can be no evolution.  As for the new global warming (now climate change--which could cover cooling as well), I believe in an almight God who will not let his creation be destroyed by the likes of us, He will cause a volcano to erupt or some other thing to happen to cool the planet if necessary or He will just say &quot;times up!&quot; and call us to our reward or punishment as we have asked for.  With what is happening in the Middle East it might not be that far into the future.  In which case we won't have to worry about it.The fact that there are billions more people than there were just a century ago has to have some effect on the climate as well.  the researcher didn't mention that item.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dhays]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:14:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[revered not reveered]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[xxx]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dhays]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:57:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[words]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[That is 'your' not 'you're'!  Usually it is misused the other way around.All it takes is one long volcanic eruption or several, to cool everything down.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dhays]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:57:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[proscribe]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Maybe he/she meant describe.  Or maybe they were going back to the roots of the word to publish.I agree, under the dictionary definition, it is not what was intended.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dhays]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:44:44 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Hottest Summer]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hmm... just four years ago, in 2007, we had our Coldest July Ever in Austin, Texas.The hottest recorded temperature in Texas was in 1936.Our Hottest Year ever was 1921.Our Coldest Year ever was 1976.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:18:44 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[They admitted that their efforts will not work.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-6574-46672]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[At the big global warming summit in Cancun in December 2010, which saw Mexico having unusually cold weather, a group of leading global warming scientists stated that ending all man made CO2 emissions would not stop global warming.The only way to stop global warming was to pump millions of tons of sulfur aerosols into the upper atmosphere to reverse global warming.http://www.umweltbundesamt.de/uba-info-presse-e/2011/pe11-032_large_scale_engineering_in_global_environmental_processes_an_alternative_in_climate_protection.htm]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:11:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Scientists agree, where?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;The debate about whether or not this paper is correct doesn???t mean that scientists don???t agree on the basic physics of how greenhouse gases affect global mean temperature, for example.&quot;  What a stupid statement.  The fact that there is a debate, by definition, means that scientists &quot;don't agree&quot;.  As many as 30,000 scientists in the U.S. alone totally disagree with all of this man-made global warming hoax!   Obviously, they have lowered the admission standards at Stanford!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Common_Sense]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:54:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[We still are in the Ice Age]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Actually, we still are in an Ice Age, the Pliocene-Quaternary glaciation which started about 2.5 million years ago. Historically, the normal state of the earth is not to be in an Ice Age, and has no ice at the poles. We are in a relatively warm period, but it's thought that whatever caused the current Ice Age is still going on with periods of 40,000 and 100,000 years between major glaciation (the last glaciation was 10,000 years ago).I haven't heard any climatologist, even those who accept man-made global warming, claim that what we're doing now or in the near future will overcome this natural process. I suppose that if we burned every last bit of carbon we have, it could overwhelm this cycle but we're actually no where near doing that.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[zackers]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:46:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Cashing In]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Mathematical models predicting global warming.  Haven't we heard all this before somewhere.  Oh yea, the University of East Anglia!  Tell the guy from Stanford that I can save him a lot of his government research bucks by taking the measurements right here at home.  Just look at the outside thermometer, wet your finger and stick it in the air and measure the wind.  Then make it all say whatever you want on that computer program-thingy you got.  Then you just tell the government grant-writers whatever it is they want to hear and we'll split the cash.  Cha-ching$!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Common_Sense]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 23:14:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Young Earth?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Put the pipe down]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[shaunehunter]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:27:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Lol]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You mean the ones funded by the Oil Companies? So who is the one source funding the worlds univeristies, the Illuminati? Yep, their 60 years of falsified reseach is finally paying off.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:21:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It is Sad]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Agreed, Hates Idiots.  We live in a closed loop, so whatever bi-products we create must go somewhere productive.  When they can't, they poison us.Again, arguing over weather and climate is a smoke screen.  What we really need to do is clear the smoke to work on balancing what we give with what we take.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ThinkMore]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:09:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It is sad.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-6574-46166]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[That people are more concerned with limiting Chinas CO2 output over a theoretical increase in temperature while the amount of lead and mercury dumped into the atmosphere grows every year by their increasing numbers of coal plants.These proven pollutants are causing very real and highly predictable health issues within China and spreading known poisons on a global scale.Poison the planet while we waste time trying to stop the evil CO2 and you will see any possible global climate change hit a planet full of corpses who will care less how warm or cold it gets.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:31:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Here's a great idea!]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-6574-46151]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[How old is the earth?If you're young earth, it's about 10,000 years.  If you're old earth, it's 4+ Billion years.Here's a great idea.  Let's base all our decisions on 150 years of data... or even better, let's base our decisions on 30 years of data... or even better, let's base our decisions on select data from the years 1980-2000.... now that's real science.@llandau&quot;were it not for global warming - we would still be living in the ice age&quot;  Correct.@riverat1If the earth does warm, remember that it will open up more northern latitude farmland, and we'll have more food to eat.  Remember, most of your current northern latitude farmland was covered by glaciers not too long ago... under global warming brought us out of the last ice age.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:22:23 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You missed the point]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[@riverat1I guess you're not paying attention, becaused you missed the point.  Forty years ago, leading scientists were saying one thing.  Today, leading scientist, who hide and manipulate data, are saying the opposite.  What did leading scientist say before, and what will they say 20 years from now.The global climate change movement is a political movement, using selective scientific data.Hotter summers may become the norm?  Heck, it's hot this summer in Austin, but it's almost always hot here in the summer.. except in 2008 when we didn't even have a summer, and it's still cooler than 2009. Then there are all those ski slopes open for Independence Day weekend.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:16:26 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[How sad...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[All the conversation about warming or cooling sadly diverts attention from the real issue: we are not living a sustainable lifestyle, regardless of what it does or does not do to the environment.That we can exist at all is only because one natural process uses the waste of another in a circular way. As time goes on, one process figures out how to use the waste of another. And eventually that evolution of things made us into what we are. If all outputs can be consumed by some other process in approximately the same timeframes, then everything chugs along just fine. But that is not happening at the moment and will not in the foreseeable future if we don't change how we live. The evidence? The rate at which CO2 and other gasses are accumulating in the atmosphere indicates that no current natural process can use them as fast as we produce them. Yes, all those gasses naturally occur (like the cows mentioned above), but not at the extremely high levels we produce. Unless something finds a way to digest it soon, it will either accumulate beyond our ability to tolerate the effects, whatever they may wind up being, or be corrected by a sudden, massive upheaval (like an ice age or something that big). This happens in all cycles: physics, biology, economy, weather - nothing is exempt from this basic principle.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ThinkMore]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:41:07 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[All I can say is]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[were it not for global warming - we would still be living in the ice age.  While I think it good that we study the earth and its climate - I think it arrogance state such a problem as global warming and then say that Humans are the only ones who can stop it!   How many ice ages have come and gone before Humans ever appeared on the planet!?!?!?!   TO say that we must change the way cars use energy - will that really fix things?  Better yet - lets get rid of all the cows since they put out as much if not more methane gas (and other) than all the cars on earth.  The earth is an aging planet same as all others.  Its not like we can give her a botox shot or plastic surgery -- and even then - we are simply covering up a &quot;problem&quot; in ourselves that keeps on going.     Lets say its true what AL Gore and the rest of them spout out with Global warming.  Wouldn't our time and dollars be better spent researching how man can survive in a warming climate instead of looking for some planetary fountain of youth or -- or worse yet -- taking it upon ourselves to fix something that may not even be a problem - just a planetary way of life.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[llandau@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:13:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[re: Old News]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[@riverat1   how many scientist were reveered by their peers when stating the sun revolved around the earth?  Or that the earth was flat?  It only takes one person to get it right.  sometimes the large groups are the ones not paying attention and YES science does support THAT!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[llandau@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:00:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Oh dear! More Warmist Superiority...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[riverat says: Jun 28, 2011 @ 10:35 AM (PDT) cosserat, we've gone over this before. Your graph is simply a numerical model and your extrapolation has no basis in the physical reality unlike climate models that are based on actual physics. What will you say when temperatures continue to rise over the next 25 years rather fall as you predict? riverat, not for the first time, your philosophical stance is dead wrong. A climate model simply reflects a scientific  hypothesis . It must be checked against real data. If the two dont agree, the hypothesis is thereby falsifed. So in hypothesis making, you have no right to claim the moral high ground over me, nor I over you. Only time will tell which if us is right. In the meanwhile, other readers can make up their own minds which hypothesis looks the most plausible to them.I am skeptical about the IPCC climate models developed before 2000 because they have lamentably failed to predict the flat-lining of the temperature curve in the last decade to 2010. Just take a look at:http://www.thetruthaboutclimatechange.org/IPCCScenarios.htmlThe blue, green and red lines represent increasingly pessimistic IPCC assumptions made prior to 2000 about future carbon emissions from 2000 to 2100. The blue, green and red plots show increasingly alarming temperature levels at 2100. The black plot to 2000 is the  actual historical temperature record. Since 2000 to 2010 the actual temperature plot has been HORIZONTAL! I suggest that any reasonably balanced intelligent person looking at this data would have to conclude that, as a minimum, the IPCC climate models failed to predict that particular outcome. Of course you may be of the view that this is just a short term downward swing - a natural climate &quot;blip&quot;. Whereas I propose that this looks suspiciously like the beginning of the downward half of the ~67 year up-and-down historic natural cycle.Neither of us knows for sure. But we will all know the answer in 10 to 15 years time.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[cosserat@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:20:50 -0700</pubDate>
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