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    <title><![CDATA[Discussion on High-Speed Rail: Trains that never stop ]]></title>
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        <title><![CDATA[Never Stop Hot Spot]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I agree              http://www.neverstophotspot.com]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Never Stop Hot Spot]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:27:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Thank you very much]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Well done! Thank you very much for professional templates and community edition sesli chat   sesli sohbet]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[yarinsiz]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:44:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Mismanagement destroyed most of it.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-6537-46148]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[When Congress took over passenger service in 1971 they also inherited thousands of miles of track.  The story is the same nation wide, but here are a few local cases.There are dozens of hiking/biking/snowmobiling trails across much of NH, like the Rockingham Recreational Trail, that are built on the rail beds of shutdown express tracks.In most cases the feds allowed the salvage of the rails to help pay for development of the trails.  Railways not directly taken over by the feds were often seized by local municipalities or illegally removed by developers.  Several miles of express rail were illegally removed near the Massachusetts / NH border by developers preventing the establishment of a commuter train from Derry NH to Boston.  Instead of rebuilding several miles of rail they are spending almost $1 billion to widen over 20 miles of I93.A project to restart direct rail service along the seacoast from Boston to Portland Maine has been stopped because one city illegally ripped up the express rail in town for a walking trail.  That particular stretch of track was still considered active rail by the feds.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:21:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The roads must roll]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Heinlein wrote about something like this 70 years ago.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[DLClark]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:41:45 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You will get no argument here on the possibilities with trains.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[But most of the designs shown here are jokes.  Acella is a joke.  The Northeast Regional, an affordable to operate conventional diesel electric train with lower fares and a higher profit margin, takes just 18 minutes longer to do the Boston to NY City run than Acela on it's best run of the day.That train is why the northeast corridor is profitable.  Acela is bleeding money.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:54:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Government tore up express rails?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[As I recall a number of lines went out on their own, others were changed to single track from double except for passing. Rails were welded into continuous (classic &quot;can't be done&quot;) and much better control systems installed. Surely it was less expensive to rebuild and maintain one track rather than two. I don't recall the government mandated or did the tearing up, but ending of protective rates may well have had an impact, and trucking did take most single car loads.My understanding is that UPS worked up an arrangement that would have shifted much of their cross-country volume to trains, but unit trains (mostly coal) for &quot;just-in-time&quot; got preference.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[b2j2]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:01:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[There is a middle ground]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hates Idiots,Amtrak's Northeast corridor makes a profit, but subsidizes other less profitable routes mandated by congress. Furthermore, every mode of transportation is subsidized.  People who drive don't pay the full cost of their transportation and almost none of the environmental impact.  Rail is very sustainable over the long term.  Roads are resurfaced every five years, but track can last 20 and cost less per mile to maintain.  You can't blame an underfunded system, Amtrak, for not meeting lofty expectations.  I take Amtrak quite often between Washington and Boston, and up to Albany.  I love the connivance.  I live in Center City Philadelphia and it takes 25 minutes to walk to the train station.Here is the reality of our situation:  We can't continue to burn fossil fuels like they will last forever, because they won???t.  Furthermore, it is poising our air, water, and natural habitat.  I like clean water, air and wildlife.  The point I go from Progressive to Libertarian is my belief that everyone should pay the true cost of their actions, not push it off on others or the next generation.  We need a new energy policy and trains will be a part of that policy.  JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK OPTIMALLY NOW DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T IN THE FUTURE.  You have made many good points in your postings, but you may be limiting your self by focusing on the negative instead of the solutions that make things possible.  It is easier to point out a fault than it is to put forth a solution!!!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JT4]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:24:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Reminds me of a transit system proposal I saw in the mid 1990s.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It would have used pods shaped like glider cockpits suspended beneath an I-beam rail system.  Touch screen controls, air bags to survive a fall from the overhead rail, collision avoidance radar to prevent accidents with other pods, IP like routing to limit system congestion through smart routing, remotely managed cargo pods, automated pod management using spiral stacked holding areas for pods to manage rush hour demands, the works.It was nice for a local transit system, but it would not work on a regional or national scale.   It would have to be part of a feeder system.  You could commute to work or you could take a pod from home or work to the nearest regional express train station or HSR station.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:36:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Thanks.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Spell check in my text editor messed up El Paso.  The other mixup was all me.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:20:17 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The &amp;quot;platform&amp;quot; trains still stop and start, don't they?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...So just how does that NOT negate the &quot;saves energy&quot; argument? PLUS the expense of maintaining THAT network of stop-start trains in good repair...The only thing this scheme &quot;saves&quot; is the (implied) cost of the new stations, and the schedule time saved by not stopping the fast trains. And they could save the station building costs simply by not building new stations, and using the existing ones instead... which they'd be doing ANYWAY...Yet another mirage shot down in mid-leap, by shifting from fantasy &quot;thought&quot; to real thought.(Good thing we carry the expense of paying all these &quot;experts&quot; to come up with these fantasy &quot;savings...&quot;)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:57:56 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[words]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yor concepts look good.  the Japanese video looked like a good system, too.It is El Paso one s. (&quot;Houston, El Passo and Phoenix&quot;) The other word is complement not compliment.  (&quot;supposed to compliment them &quot;) The word compliment is what you do your wife by saying she looks beautiful.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dhays]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:27:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Do you know.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[For the massive amounts of money spent on Acela it is still slower than the steam engines that ran between those cities in the 1940s?And I am not sure how a government subsidized train can be called profitable?Remove the taxpayer subsidies that pay for track and station maintenance and lets see if it is really profitable.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:18:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Passenger trains are successful on the East Coast]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[They are competing with planes, and very successfully.  With passenger rail stations already downtown, a short cab ride gets you to the station at your origin, and from the station at your destination.  The airline passenger needs to drive or ride up to an hour (or more) to the airport, spend an hour or two in security and boarding, make the flight, disembark and wait for luggage (another hour or so), then drive or ride an hour or more to the destination.From Albany, Philadelphia, and even Washington, DC to NYC, the train is faster downtown to downtown than flying.  And, because it eliminates the need to pay tolls, find parking, deal with downtown traffic, etc., it is often much more convenient than driving.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[NickNielsen]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:03:58 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Simple solution.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Do not put HSR train stations as close as they want to.  It is stupid to put HSR stations less than 100 miles apart.  Anything less than that you are wasting time and energy constantly accelerating or decelerating.If they want to do HSR trains efficiently they need to combine cargo with passenger service on one train with infrequent stops.  This means rebuilding thousands of miles of express rails the US government tore up in the 1970s.  A good example would be a HSR train running across the southern US from Jacksonville FL to San Diego with stops in New Orleans, Houston, El Paso and Phoenix.During the passenger transfer the cargo cars of the train would be swapped out making the time of the stop more efficient.  Other HSR trains running north / south from those cities would make up a new HSR grid crossing the country to move passengers and cargo.  Container cargo could be shipped from the port of San Diego to Chicago with one train change.  Similar HSR trains would run east / west through the central and northern parts of the nation completing the grid.  These trains need to terminate in port cities on each coast to be effective.Affordable to operate regional trains running at speeds up to 100 mph would operate on regional grids that would feed passengers and cargo from smaller cities into the HSR rail grid.This is very similar to the grid that supplied the US war effort in WW I and WW II that was dismantled in favor of the Interstate Highway System.  Eisenhower never intended his highway system to replace trains.  It was supposed to complement them as part of a comprehensive transportation grid as Germany used its Autobahns to complement its railroads.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:48:07 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Sweet.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Can they test it with my ex?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:28:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Richest country in the world.  Forget it.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-6537-45535]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[That title may have applied in the 1960s when we were a lending nation.  As a nation the US is $14 trillion in debt, largely to the Chinese and the Brazilians.I would say at this point they are wealthier than the US.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:26:52 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Aren't there simpler ways to speed things up?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I see that moving platforms might keep the journey time down for the average passenger, but I don't quite get how it's supposed to save energy or money. Accelerating and decelerating a bunch of platforms is going to be super energy intensive and costly. I would say the main short-term problem for any form of rail here in the US is the need to cross roads regularly.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Dunckers]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:19:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[High speed quad ski lift technology]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I've often daydreamed that a type of boarding apparatus such as employed at ski lifts would serve this need. You could have &quot;lift chairs&quot; that hold groups of people or even vehicles! As the train moved through the lift station these pre-boarded lift vehicles would mate with the &quot;cable&quot;, that is, the high speed train with mating platforms to hold the lift vehicles.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[davidqxo]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:39:23 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[...or the reality.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In case you haven't been keeping up with the news, China's high-speed train is deeply flawed and its management corrupt.  It's main purpose doesn't appear to be efficient mass transportation, but mainly a PR prob to impress fawning progressives.The difference between schemes like this and what Disney does is that:A) Disney spends their own money.B) Disney quickly abandons what doesn't work.The beauty of honest science and engineering is that we're supposed to point out flaws, and the protagonists are supposed to point out why we are wrong.  But now in the new &quot;green&quot; age, that isn't tolerated anymore.  The result are limited resources wasted on unworkable boondoggles and an increasingly cynical public.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:14:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yeah right! Pie in the sky dreams people!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Look, the richest country in the world can't build 8 miles of above ground commuter rail for under $5 billion dollars! In the two richest suburbs in the nation outside the nation's capital! This And there is talks that it could reach $8 billion when all is said and done! There it *NO WAY* this thing will be built unless it is the Chinese!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tech_ed@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:45:50 -0700</pubDate>
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