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@GuntherGump
G.E. is a very powerful lobbyist in D.C. Why do you think
there will be laws demanding the use of energy sipping
products that G.E. conveniently has "just made" which very
expensive.
Yes, but GE is not a powerful lobbyist in my country, and we
are also phasing out incandescent globes.
I love it when Americans blog to sound like they are seeing
through the conspiracy, but are so naive they have not even
looked past their borders to form their opinion, let alone
worked out the science or the economics.
There have been a few organisations here that have given out
free CFL globes, and that is what we use. These were private
companies that offered these globes.
We have had many years of use from the free CFL globes, some
of which I have changed to lower wattage as they are too bright,
even after a few years of use.
The incandescent globes in this house used to blow more often
than they should, the CFLs have not met the same fate.
Well, G.E. isn't dumb, that's for sure. Too bad Uncle Sam
is.
Too bad you are easily misled!!!
LED globes have been a developing area for a while, getting
them to the commercially viable stage for these applications
has taken some time, it is good to see GE joining in.
Yes, the price is high right now, but they will still pay for
themselves.
This is a lot like PV Solar, up until now the payoff time was 20-
25 years. I can now get a solar array with a 4 year payoff
though one of the energy providers here. This means solar is
suddenly very worthwhile.
And I bought my first CFL globes about 20 years ago - they
were quite expensive and heavy and nowhere near as efficient
as the current ones, now they are a few dollars, and I use 11W
in my bedroom ceiling, which is uncomfortably bright, I use 8W
in my standard lamp instead most of the time. Previously I
would have used a 60W globe, which would have cost $1 and
failed every 11 months.
To me this is now a no brainer - based on 20ish years of CFL
experience.
To me something that is even more efficient and longer lasting
and comes on instantly is even more promising when it gets to
be cost effective.
I recently installed a LED lamp for the front porch, it is a 1W
LED which ultimately uses about 2W due to the transformer.
This cost me $30 as it was on special, it is normally $70. The
power cost would be around $5 per year if it was on 24/7. This
means that in normal use the cost of the whole fixture is
greater than the running cost, which is fine - so over a 10 year
lifespan it will cost between $30 and $80. A non LED fixture
could have cost me that, without the power bill and I would
have had to change the globe, which I will not have to do.
The fixture is stainless steel and a solid plastic diffuser, it is
very rugged and not going to rust. One day the LED will burn
out.
Why would I be better with a CFL or an incandescent fixture?
Does GE's power in Washington have anything to do with my
use of LEDs and the savings I am experiencing here? I think
not!!!
Does GE's lobbying mean that I am suffering by getting free
light bulbs and saving quite a bit of electricity here? I think
not!!!
Would any conspiracy theorist or pro pollution lobbyist like to
argue otherwise here?
G.E. is a very powerful lobbyist in D.C. Why do you think
there will be laws demanding the use of energy sipping
products that G.E. conveniently has "just made" which very
expensive.
Yes, but GE is not a powerful lobbyist in my country, and we
are also phasing out incandescent globes.
I love it when Americans blog to sound like they are seeing
through the conspiracy, but are so naive they have not even
looked past their borders to form their opinion, let alone
worked out the science or the economics.
There have been a few organisations here that have given out
free CFL globes, and that is what we use. These were private
companies that offered these globes.
We have had many years of use from the free CFL globes, some
of which I have changed to lower wattage as they are too bright,
even after a few years of use.
The incandescent globes in this house used to blow more often
than they should, the CFLs have not met the same fate.
Well, G.E. isn't dumb, that's for sure. Too bad Uncle Sam
is.
Too bad you are easily misled!!!
LED globes have been a developing area for a while, getting
them to the commercially viable stage for these applications
has taken some time, it is good to see GE joining in.
Yes, the price is high right now, but they will still pay for
themselves.
This is a lot like PV Solar, up until now the payoff time was 20-
25 years. I can now get a solar array with a 4 year payoff
though one of the energy providers here. This means solar is
suddenly very worthwhile.
And I bought my first CFL globes about 20 years ago - they
were quite expensive and heavy and nowhere near as efficient
as the current ones, now they are a few dollars, and I use 11W
in my bedroom ceiling, which is uncomfortably bright, I use 8W
in my standard lamp instead most of the time. Previously I
would have used a 60W globe, which would have cost $1 and
failed every 11 months.
To me this is now a no brainer - based on 20ish years of CFL
experience.
To me something that is even more efficient and longer lasting
and comes on instantly is even more promising when it gets to
be cost effective.
I recently installed a LED lamp for the front porch, it is a 1W
LED which ultimately uses about 2W due to the transformer.
This cost me $30 as it was on special, it is normally $70. The
power cost would be around $5 per year if it was on 24/7. This
means that in normal use the cost of the whole fixture is
greater than the running cost, which is fine - so over a 10 year
lifespan it will cost between $30 and $80. A non LED fixture
could have cost me that, without the power bill and I would
have had to change the globe, which I will not have to do.
The fixture is stainless steel and a solid plastic diffuser, it is
very rugged and not going to rust. One day the LED will burn
out.
Why would I be better with a CFL or an incandescent fixture?
Does GE's power in Washington have anything to do with my
use of LEDs and the savings I am experiencing here? I think
not!!!
Does GE's lobbying mean that I am suffering by getting free
light bulbs and saving quite a bit of electricity here? I think
not!!!
Would any conspiracy theorist or pro pollution lobbyist like to
argue otherwise here?
Posted by richardw66
13th Apr 2010