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        <title><![CDATA[Greenland]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Among other things, you are completely wrong about the naming of Greenland.  The name &quot;Greenland&quot; was basically a marketing ploy by Erik the Red.  He gave it that name in the hope that it would make it sound appealing to potential settlers, not because it was lush and green (which it was not).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jgaskell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:15:49 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[in the wild?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[so this coffee bean will become extinct in the wild, so they assume that all the planted coffee will become extinct? Last time I looked, my coffee was planted and harvested in plantations in Mindanao, (I live in the Philippines and try to eat and drink only local foods)...so it is not harvested from wild bushes in Arabia or Ethiopia.Just like men devised wheat to grow in the steppes of Ukraine that later made Kansas into a breadbasket, don't you think they can do the same with coffee?It's articles like this that are so silly that it makes global warming sceptics.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tioedong@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:53:24 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Non Caffeinated New Yorkers]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-12443-85059]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[As long as it is New Yorkers ripping the heads off of other New Yorkers then this means thaey are doing their part to reduce CO2 emissions.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[randall.wilkinson@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:00:20 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Guessing at CO2]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[What can't be measured, can only be guessed at, and, the guessing always favors the one who needs to make a point in his direction.Yes the guessing will always favor the government sponsored climate change scientists that needs to keep proveing that man causes climate change (NOT) so that he can keep his government sponsored grants to research climate change coming.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[randall.wilkinson@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:55:22 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Agreement is the Only Truth We Have]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-12443-84403]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[As you all have been arguing, truth is what you believe.  If enough people believe in something and act on it, that's the truth.  But truth changes over time, and we don't seem to learn from what we call truth anyway.  What we think is the truth is proven wrong over time, but if we didn't act on something we think is true, what would we do every day.  Science is the best process we have to define truth and peer review is the best way to try to get enough agreement to do something, instead of complaining and calling each other names that degrades our integrity as a species.  Can love be truth?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[quonexus]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:13:22 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not worried ]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[From Genetic modification to Hybrid plants we're probably safe on this , and don't forget other areas of our weird wonderful world will more than likely be suitable for growing coffee as their temps/conditions change .]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[cptfreakout]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:03:39 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I feel the same way about you ]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[(filler)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[riverat1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:59:20 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Nooooo... not Moscow.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[When our java comes from Afghanistan, then that's time to worry.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GuntherGump]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:08:15 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Sing it.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GuntherGump]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:04:49 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Agreed.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sadly, way too many educated (college eds, yah you) will just believe things like this and commit it to memory without a challenge of any kind. Don't feel bad, you've been programmed to do that.  That's how you pass exams.  Now then, if you want real education, take your professors to task on these issues.  Sure, they may have 100 facts to baffle your mind with, but that is because they've been programmed much longer than you have. (and their paychecks depends on it)  All of you college kids (there are exceptions) are all being trained to go with the flow, through intimidation and coercion. (and your grades/future job/social status depend on it)I disagree with most of all of Smart Planet's stances, respectfully, to show others that just because 100 people say it's right doesn't make it right.How many inventions that shaped our world today were created by people that were told by their peers and educators that they were wrong or didn't understand?  How many were told &quot;that will never work - you don't know what you're doing&quot;?  How many of them proved those 100 other naysayers wrong?Climate Change will go down in history as a political crow-bar.  A lot of you will have a lot of shame to deal with.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GuntherGump]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Bravo.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GuntherGump]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:47:51 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Should we worry?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[When large coffee fields pop up outside of Moscow?Russia and Canada will be the big 2 in the new coffee cartel.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hates Idiots]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:50:33 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Don't give me hand waving without anything to back it up!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You asked for predictions with details.  I gave them to you (not that I expected you to read them, like I said they're probably above your reading comprehension level).  In turn you offer no evidence to back up your positions, just a lot of hand waving.  Excuse me but I can't give a lot of credence to you if you won't cite actual scientific research to support your position.Regarding your little point about Greenland, well over 90% of the ice that is currently on Greenland was there during the medieval times.  If it wasn't it would be obvious because sea level would have been significantly higher.  There is enough ice on Greenland to raise sea level by over 20 feet and there wasn't even a 1 foot difference between sea level then and the 20th Century average.  Greenland was never a land of lush greenery, just slightly less cold and greener at the southern end of the island.Yes, there are a myriad of factors that affect climate but not all are of equal effect.  For example the single biggest thing that affects climate is the incoming solar radiation.  Without that the Earth's temperature would be near absolute zero.  Probably the second biggest factor is the Earth's albedo which determines how much of that incoming radiation is retained and converted to heat energy.  Probably the third most important factor is the levels of the various greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.  All in all if you select the 10 most important factors in climate you can probably account for over 99% of the effect and the thousands of other factors are just tweaks on the major effects.No matter what you think science is never perfect.  All it can do is describe reality as best it can, adjusting the explanations as new evidence comes along.  There is still lots of work to do in improving our understanding of Earth's climate but that doesn't mean what we currently know is useless until we know everything.  If you want to overturn the current understanding of climate it's not enough to just try and tear down the existing research, you have to offer something that does a better job than the current theory.But, I suspect as I surmised before that you are simply scientifically illiterate and unqualified to really judge the validity of climate (or any) science.  You probably get your talking points from places like WattsUpWithThat and ClimateDepot and from people like Lord Christopher Moncton.  And you will continue to be frustrated because real world events will continue to support their climate theory.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[riverat1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:38:58 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Take it up with a vulcanologist]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It sounds like you think the vulcanologists don't know a damned thing about their science.  I tend to think they do know a thing or two and unless I get real evidence to the contrary I'll continue to believe what they say.  When I use the term &quot;ballpark&quot; I'm never talking about something that is off by a factor of 100.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[riverat1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:40:06 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Dang... I need to buy Canadian real estate.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-12443-83362]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[The Russians got it made!  They should be promoting global warming.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GuntherGump]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:21:04 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Exactly right!!!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Cold weather areas are unsuitable for human life, yet, there we are, all over the cold and frozen areas on the planet,   We can adapt, and so can other creatures and plant life.  Where other life forms can't adapt, we help them along, and we've done that too.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[adornoe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:52:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Don't give me graphs produced by the same corrupt researchers]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[who have given us the massively flawed &quot;science&quot;.  That would be like me, pointing to the &quot;fact&quot; that, if a certain losing football team, where to have some of the best football players from the other football teams, that, it would probably be the best or one of the best teams out there.  Graphs from the faux science are not credible, and are completely worthless.   The IPCC group itself is part of the agenda to try to convince people that, global warming is being caused by man.    But, the measurements and science are flawed and therefore, the whole &quot;science&quot; falls apart.  Global warming periods are a fact of climate change, and so are cooling periods.  The planet has had warming periods in the past, before man had any kind of effect on the conditions of the planet.  Climate happens, and the effect from human consumption is irrelevant to the greater causes that occur naturally.  Greenland was named so because, global warming in the medieval times was such that, what is now essentially a frozen land, was warm enough back then to actually turn the land to lush greenery.  And, man didn't have the large factories or SUVs or AC/Heat systems to effect nature back then.You are again committing the same mistakes that the researchers and global warming shysters have been doing for the last several decades, and that is that, you are conveniently picking and choosing the data and &quot;facts&quot; that fit your desired &quot;global warming&quot; indicators.  Your methods and those of the global warming junk scientists aren't any different, and you're just as much a part of the junk science agenda as they are.Global warming &quot;science&quot; is NOT POSSIBLE, because, there is no way that any researcher or scientist can develop a model that can take into consideration the many millions of variables that go into the entire climate system of the planet.  But, it's not just about the variables or the faulty models; it's about the agenda, which is to create a narrative that, no matter what the opposing data and research might say, is always to try to convince the people that, the &quot;science&quot; is settled and unquestionable and without faults.  But, no real scientist would ever do that kind of science and still maintain any kind of credibility with the &quot;real scientific community&quot;.  Junk science can never stand up to scrutiny, and global warming has failed that test miserably, time and again.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[adornoe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:47:38 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Ballpark estimates are still very prone to major errors]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[and miscalculations.There are not enough sensors to accurately calculate emissions of volcanoes, and certainly, not enough accurate research to draw accurate conclusions from the data.  The research that attempts to draw conclusions from the &quot;gathered data&quot;, has major flaws in the capture of the data, and in the picking and choosing of the data, and in the models used to analyze the data, and in the methods used by those researches to attempt to massage all of the above in order to arrive at their predefined set of conclusions that they were after to begin with.IOW, the science is corrupt from beginning to end, and the analysis from volcanoes is part of that flawed research.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[adornoe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:28:08 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Coffee]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;as locations where arabica is currently grown will become unsuitable&quot;They'll grow it somewhere else. If the planet warms, then lands formerly unsuitable to grow crops will become suitable.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:49:25 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Well, if climate scientists are right...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-12443-83297]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[... and they aren't.  (They're paid for political leverage, so they're biased already).Starbucks Yukon blend may be grown there. All of America's problems would be underwater.Our use of the sun for electricity via solar panels will be taxed. (gasoline won't exist)And Princess Cruises will offer a cruise deemed &quot;The Polar Express&quot; each holiday season.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GuntherGump]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:48:37 -0800</pubDate>
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