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    <title><![CDATA[Discussion on From relic to revolutionary: streetcars revitalize city transit ]]></title>
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        <title><![CDATA[yeah right]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I don't even need to know anything about Milwaukee to pick out the holes in your logic. Common sense tells you that transit powered by electricity cuts down on emissions. Twelve U.S. cities are bringing back streetcars because they are clean and efficient. The prvate sector funds things to make a profit from them. This is for the public good and will do fine with public funding. I have a secret for you. You can heat streetcars in winter. If you think most people are driving their cars in Europe and not using transit you are living in a fantasy world. Transit is not a pipe dream, and streetcars are not toys. But you are a grumpy old man with an axe to grind.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[john kneeland]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 14:26:29 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Buses are better?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Of course, you have studies to back up what you're saying, right?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[john kneeland]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:40:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:01:35 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Here's a terrifying one]]></title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 01:49:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Streetcars Are No More Rigid Than Cities Themselves]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Your argument about buses being superior because of route flexibility is as wrong as it is familiar. In Brooklyn, for example, most bus lines still follow the old trolley routes more than half a century after the streetcars' demise. In Los Angeles, the old streetcar routes are still so sensible that they are being rebuilt for modern light rail and trolley service.The truth is that cities and the travel patterns within them change _very_ slowly, if at all, and the alleged advantage of bus route flexibility is a phantom, logical at first glance but rarely meaningful in practice.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Moshe Feder]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:37:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:23:32 -0800</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[to power them entirely by hydroelectric power if they contract with the Bonneville Power Administration for the electricity.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:20:09 -0800</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:20:02 -0800</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 05:51:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 04:44:10 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[fuel]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Still a huge amount more efficient than your car (unless you own a hybrid), and can easily use green/renewable power (which your car probably can't).And they can easily switch to newer electricity sources when they become available--so if a new solar plant opens in the area, that can be your tram power. Can't do that with a car.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[kax@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:06:06 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[bus costs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[one oft-ignored cost of busses--the drivers. Many streetcar/tram systems carry more people per vehicle than a bus, and so need less drivers.But they also cost a lot less per KM to run, and the vehicles and vehicle parts last a longer.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:03:06 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[streetcars]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[which is why Melbourne has trams /and/ buses--all govt owned, and you use one ticket for all public transport (trams, trains and buses). It's great to go shopping and get a day ticket for all transport, and it's not expensive.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:00:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[buses]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[They were economical only because the price of fuel was low and they were supplying the busses to themselves at cost. If they were paying fleet prices they may not have changed over.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:57:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[marquette interchange, anyone?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If the 1 Billion $ rebuild of the Marquette interchange in downtown Milwaukee was a such a good idea, then someone in the private sector would have funded it.  In fact, every interstate in Milwaukee, yea even Wisconsin, is free - not a single toll transponder or booth to be found!  When the private sector is building your roads and interchanges, then we can talk about private industry building other transport like trams, buses, and trains.  As long as the public thinks that transportation is worthy of government funding via roads &amp; interstates, then it should think that ALL transport is worthy of government funding, and that includes sidewalks, bike lanes, transit bus &amp; tram services, Amtrak, Metra or the proposed KRM, and everything else that helps people travel and provide economic benefits to their communities.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rivardau]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 03:24:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[streetcars and old fartz]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The history is bit more sordid. GM and others replaced the ripped up tracks and tolley companies (they bought up) with bus companies that featured junk buses that broke down ofter enough to spur the purchase of automobiles - which the bus companies also were manufacturing. A conincidence? Not to mention the interest of big OIL.Further, remember all the trolley and RailRoad systems that blanketed the country (so you could take  trolleys from Portland, ME down to NYC just by switching between companies) were all built with private money and then destroyed with (GM's) private money. Now the taxpayers are paying for the rebuilding. America the beautiful. Who does your elected rep work for? Not you.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[affordablecomputerguy@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:57:50 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I disagree - the Houston light rail has been a huge waste of money]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The Houston light rail suffered from low ridership, high cost and political cronyism.  It also disrupts traffic flow and has lead to quite a few train-car accidents due to the confusion it's design created.  Ridership was so bad that Metro discontinued many of the bus routes that used to transport people from the Park &amp; Ride lots to their jobs in the Houston Medical Center.  They are now forced to take the bus to downtown, walk several blocks to the train stop and take the train down to the medical center instead of just staying on the bus the entire distance.  While the extra exercise might be good, it's no fun on a rainy day and adds about a half hour a day to a lot of people's commutes.  The money would have been much better spent improving the traffic flow through more intelligent traffic signalling, better designed and improved traffic lanes, etc.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[kmarchell@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:30:17 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Trolleys]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In Milwaukee, WI the mayor is planning a trolley for the downtown are.  It will cost millions to move transmission lines and other infrastructure as the trolley cannot run over the areas where these lines are present.  Who would pay for it ?  The consumers on their bills and taxpayers.  How likely are people to ride this albatross in the Winter ?  Not very lilkely.  We have enough toys thank you.  Carbon Neutral ?  Hardly.  Anything needing electricity is not carbon neutralIf it is such a good idea then someone in the private sector would fund it.  That's why governments fund these sort of garbage projects that end up costing taxpayers maintenance costs and low ridership.  Even in Europe rail ridership is declining and most people are driving their cars.These ideas are not new.  We don't need more pipe dreams.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[pizzaman7]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:02:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[True]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-12042-80687]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[The backstory of &quot;Who Killed Roger Rabbit&quot; was the true story of what happened to the Redline in LA. My wife, who lived in that very area in the early to mid fifties and used the streetcar extensively, remembers very well the advantages. She didn't know anyone who was happy to see it go...and yes, greed and corruption there and around the country killed the streetcar and has largely kept it from coming back for these sixty-plus years. Finally people are getting their heads on straight and rejecting control by the monied and powerful who only have their own agenda in mind. Great article.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[justajo]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:59:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[A Portland Perspective]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Having lived in Portland for many years, I have enjoyed the benefits of much of the variety of mass transit options available within the urban and suburban metro area.  The mix of options include an aerial tram, the MAX light rail, trolleys, buses, street cars, our international airport, our feet for walking, and of course our world class biking infrastructure.  All of which contribute to the high level of livability within the Portland metro area.  One of the features mentioned in the article but overlooked by the commenters is the contribution to the local economy made by United Streetcar. Many years ago the City of Portland made a strategic decision to help grow the local economy and to build its fleet of streetcars by supporting the work of United.  The synergy has worked quite well, leading to some of the best jobs in Oregon for what has become a growing industry.  Some farsighted thinking on the part of a select group of local citizens.The revitalization of both urban and suburban areas has been directly attributed to the work of the local and regional government agencies and the local populations in a cooperative environment.  Partnering with local developers and city planners has resulted in some of the best examples of how to grow a regional economy intelligently and avoiding much of the problems associated with urban sprawl.  Love it or hate it, the urban growth boundary has contributed to the livability of the area and has become a model of sustainable local land use, recognized throughout the world.Don't get me wrong, Portland is not a utopia, it has its share of problems; but on a whole, the transportation system in Portland is quite well thought out and implemented to the benefit of its local citizenry.We also take advantage of some of the country's lowest electric rates, courtesy of the Bonneville Dam, which is essentially a giant solar collector if you consider how the water gets to the dam.So with the combination of intelligent urban planning, a cooperative population, a relatively cheap power supply, and a wide variety of mass transit options, Portland is one of this country's best examples of how to make things work.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dcr100@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 03:53:46 -0700</pubDate>
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