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        <title><![CDATA[Not junk science, but incomplete explanations]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[littlepitcher, I agree with your viewpoint. The problem with an article like this is that causation (less testosterone = longer life) is often confused with correlation (eunuchs lived less dangerous lives = longer life). Having studied statistics, this is the biggest reason numbers and facts can be misused or misunderstood.There are many others who raised good questions about the very small size of the group and the lack of any testing to support the article's premise. I don't think the writer meant any harm, only to raise an interesting question. I do think that the title is going to give the wrong impression to most readers. Some of the other cruder comments were really unfair.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ws3d]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:32:15 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Conflating is what is wrong]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[What is wrong with this article is that is it conflating 2 sets of research.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[neil.postlethwaite@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:45:02 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You are conflating 2 sets of evidence]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You are conflating 2 sets of research data - Men low and testosterone living longer and women in general live longer than men. There is no real link between the 2, and calling a man without balls as being a Proxy for being a woman is just plain wrong. It's grubbing the bottom in the same manner as research on Homeopathy showing 'it works'.Stand up for your journalism, instead of whinging you are getting your balls broken  over this low quality piece of science news.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[neil.postlethwaite@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:44:02 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Evidence based science, eveidence needs to be of 'quality'.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;This IS science, but of the suggestive kind, not of the proof kind. But so what -- I doubt they spent much of anyone's money on it anyway...&quot;Sorry, good science is evidence based, and the evidence has to be of 'quality', not any old hor5esh1t scraped off the floor. A man with no balls and low on testosterone is a Proxy for being a woman - it's despairing this is being touted as science news.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[neil.postlethwaite@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:40:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[He was making a funny]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[C'mon - Yes, they did marry &amp;&amp; could adopt castrated boys. Also does not mention the method of castration, ie gonads only or the whole package. Marriage and sex are not a given combo - just ask most men married for 10 years. (and some women...) And - if one require a penis for sex, there would be a lot of frustrated lesbians.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mr_bandit]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:13:51 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The most critical reader of this website]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-11930-79748]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[...is its editor. And I haven't let up for a moment.I'm getting tired of the complaints. You're clearly not reading this website critically -- more than half of the writers who work for this site are tasked with doing original reporting, and that number has been steadily rising for more than a year. Where are your comments on the Q&amp;As, foreign dispatches, expert columns and long-form feature stories that run every week? Or is it too easy to ignore those on the way to your conclusion?If you don't like controversial science, that's fine. But don't confuse controversy with accuracy. What's written about above is presented accurately, fairly and -- above all -- it's not junk science!You continue to insult the hard-working people of this publication by continually calling into question their credentials and professionalism. I'm more than willing to entertain suggestions, and I welcome them. But I'm tired of the trolling. I've given you my direct contact information multiple times, Durwood, with an open-door policy. You have yet to take advantage of that.Look -- I appreciate your passion. Without question, I think scientific professionals (and independent business owners) like you make our community better. Your comments on articles about aquaculture and the industries that support it are priceless. We clearly share a desire to make SmartPlanet the best it can be. So why keep trying to tear everything down? Be a reader that contributes to, not detracts from, the conversation -- and perhaps we'll have a better one as a result.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew.nusca]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:16:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I've long concluded that the side effects of most medications...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-11930-79759]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[...are usually worse than the malady they are intended to cure.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:13:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Covered this...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;To rule out the effects of cushy conditions on longevity, they compared the eunuchs lifespans to those of uncastrated men of similar social status living at the same time:&quot;No ditch-diggers in the control group, is my guess...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:41:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Thank goodness for truth in labelling...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Women don't do as much?  Do you KNOW any women, dude?Women don't have to put up with as much stress?  Do you know any MEN?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:37:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[YOU are &quot;Not Possible&quot;]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Because YOU are making sweeping assumptions of what was or was not possible for the researchers to discover through the records they had in hand.They had the court records to tell them how long the eunuchs lived, so I think we can credit that they had records for other courtiers as well.  They used those records to find out their data, and with a sample size of 81, and a LARGE difference in lifespan, I'd say the evidence was pretty &quot;cut&quot; and dried.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:35:19 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Pretty much...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-11930-79756]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[...but of course they are trying to stay alive (to sex?) BY taking the supplements.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:28:43 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Why would they need painkiller?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Seriously, the normal way to castrate anyone is to put a simple rubber band around the scrotum above the testicles, and simply leave it there for a few days.I've done lambs that way.  Problem solved.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:26:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I think for some people...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-11930-79742]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[...ANY article mentioning gonads is from Satan, and for people who had to look &quot;gonads&quot; up, it may be from even further down...Add to that the &quot;cutting off&quot; thing, and...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:21:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[And I'm one...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...of the people who have called them out.  But there are cogent facts here.One fact is that men without gonads lived (much) longer than similarly-situated men WITH gonads in place.  And another fact is that there is mostly just the ONE thing different, between with-gonads, and without-gonads groups, isn't there?  And that one thing is down to the testosterone, isn't it?So THERE is your male-female difference-by-proxy -- the lack of testosterone.This IS science, but of the suggestive kind, not of the proof kind.  But so what -- I doubt they spent much of anyone's money on it anyway...And okay, next you are going to say what good is science without a proof... but if they had never done this study, we would have missed out on some really juicy information, now wouldn't we?  So what, if we &quot;have to&quot; wait some more to get the answer -- they never SAID they had the answer, did they?  And the counter-factual is that they never even told us this...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Joe]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:13:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[testosterone balance]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If the hypothesis is borne out by further studies on, for example, Italian castrati, it will raise more questions.  If exercise increases testosterone, how will this affect the longevity of post-menopausal women?  Will testosterone patches make men die happier but sooner?How does one balance fitness with potentially eroded immunity?I suspect that the stats will prove themselves, but that the answer will be that castrati did not serve in the military, were less aggressive than unaltered males, and thus had a lower injury and side effect rate.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[littlepitcher]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 05:49:46 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Why Do Women Live Longer Today?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[To answer this question they study(?) 16th to 19th Century eunuchs?  Surely, they can't be serious.Women live longer for a variety of reasons, including (in no particular order)&quot;Battle/war deaths are usually men.Stupid things young men do that get themselves killed. What are a redneck's last words? &quot;Hey, y'all, watch this!&quot;Murders.  More men are murdered than women.Heart Attacks.  Due to lifestyle issues, more men have heart attacks than do women.  Of course, women are trying hard to catch up in this area.Dangerous jobs.  More men work dangerous jobs than women.Life on the streets.  More men than women live on the streets.I could go on...  It seems that testosterone may not be the cause.  The effects of testosterone may definitely be a contributing factor.Why do women want to be like men?  Why give up the great things about being a woman to take on the worst things about being a man?Why can't people be happy with themselves?Why is the sky blue?  Why is a shoe called a shoe?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 05:32:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Eunoch Study may explain why women live longer than men]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[This is just research and theory that does give some valid points and food for thought which warrants further research. I do not understand why so many subscribers are getting so worked up about the subject.The comments made here do to a certain extent prove that testosterone increases that chance of the human male to exhibit narrow minded,rude and aggressive behaviour at anything that is contrary to their own opinion.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[schneidervalance]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:28:23 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Well, yeah...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You ever pay attention to the list of potential side effects at the end of the ads for that stuff? Potentially deadly.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Greenknight_z]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:24:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Get a Grip! lol]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Smart Planet didn't do the study or write the article, they are just reporting it, so don't shoot the messenger. Funny how upset men get if even the suggestion of a threat to their manhood is made...must be all that testosterone...lol]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mail@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:22:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[No testosterone - longer life]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Early on you say women outlive men by 5 years, then you say castrati outlive men with equipment by 19 years, huh?Anyways, I married a Jewish girl, so I'll live a long time - happily.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[affordablecomputerguy@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:41:59 -0700</pubDate>
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