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Back during Mao's time? It has been about 15 years since I was in China but I remember as we drove around the country seeing water buffalo pulling plows and line after line of people building roads. Hardly the stuff of Have's. Actually the living standard has been rising in China for a long time which is why there are more cars sold there than in America as of 2009. With their population density in cities, then mass transit is the only real option and if cleaner air comes along with that, then good for everybody.