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Inflated Degree Requirements
Posted by Dr_Zinj
31st Aug
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Bad Link to Report
Posted by BurntSynapse
Updated - 31st Aug
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Thank you - link fixed
Link now takes you to Brookings landing page. My apologies to readers who may have tried to access the full report.
Posted by Joe McKendrick
31st Aug
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Inflated Degree Requirements
There are a plethora of companies out there that require bachelors degrees for jobs that do not need the knowledge of a 4 year graduate. That degree equals someone who has a track record of longevity and goal setting, and conformity to corporate and legal environments, and in some cases, trust, that their non-degreed competitors don't have. The first question businesses have to ask is, "Does the position absolutely need a degree skill set?" the second question is, "Are we substituting a degree requirement for one or more of the above conditions?" And the final question of, "At what point do you need that person bad enough to take a risk on them without a degree?"
Posted by Dr_Zinj
31st Aug
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Agreed.
Having a degree does not mean a person has the skill or the talent to do the job.
It just means they can successfully take tests.
Unless they go to Harvard. Then they have some one else do their take home final.
Take home finals and a thousand other things are why degrees have become over rated.
It just means they can successfully take tests.
Unless they go to Harvard. Then they have some one else do their take home final.
Take home finals and a thousand other things are why degrees have become over rated.
Posted by Hates Idiots
31st Aug
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Overrated degrees
The reason why they are overrated, is because colleges and universities don't teach anything worthwhile anymore, unless it is a specific pre-set for later schooling (ie, pre-med).
There are a few, IT tends to teach programming (not well, but teach it). The one thing colleges USED to teach, and why a degree was so valuable initially, was they took a solid base-core of knowledge learned in high school (supposedly how to survive in the world), enhanced that, and expanded on what you needed to know for the field of work you chose.
Now we have kids who can barely read and write by the time they get to college... Colleges are rated more on party-school status than what they offer, and since the kids coming in have half the knowledge or less of kids going to college 20-40 years ago, the universities can't teach things well anymore. Add on to the fact that too many colleges/universities are run like poor businesses worried about prestige and who works there, than the kids they release (VERY UNPREPARED) in to the world... It's an overpriced recipe for disaster....
There are a few, IT tends to teach programming (not well, but teach it). The one thing colleges USED to teach, and why a degree was so valuable initially, was they took a solid base-core of knowledge learned in high school (supposedly how to survive in the world), enhanced that, and expanded on what you needed to know for the field of work you chose.
Now we have kids who can barely read and write by the time they get to college... Colleges are rated more on party-school status than what they offer, and since the kids coming in have half the knowledge or less of kids going to college 20-40 years ago, the universities can't teach things well anymore. Add on to the fact that too many colleges/universities are run like poor businesses worried about prestige and who works there, than the kids they release (VERY UNPREPARED) in to the world... It's an overpriced recipe for disaster....
Posted by jonrosen
31st Aug
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Skills Gap
This report is especially enlightening because it shows how the skills gap emerging in America is taking shape. Baby Boomers and others across the nation are retiring and/or leaving their jobs, and employers (particularly in the skilled trades) are having more trouble than ever finding qualified replacements. Career and technical education will be critical to the solutions to these emerging gaps, and businesses, education and government all must work together to truly effect the change the economy needs.
The newly formed Industry Workforce Needs Council is one example of a group of businesspeople committed to effecting change in this space. For more information on their efforts, visit www.iwnc.org.
Jason Sprenger, for the IWNC
The newly formed Industry Workforce Needs Council is one example of a group of businesspeople committed to effecting change in this space. For more information on their efforts, visit www.iwnc.org.
Jason Sprenger, for the IWNC
Posted by Jason Sprenger
31st Aug
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Good luck with a welcomed inititive.
Speaking from experience, the pathetic state of the US education system has made it very difficult to find quality young talent. There is a substantial talent gap in the labor pool once you get under age 40.
Desperate for quality employees, my company signed onto a work study program in cooperation with a local charter high school almost 10 years ago. The paid internships are focused in one department, but many of the kids apply for part time summer seasonal job openings to gain experience in multiple departments.
The parents who put their kids in this inner city charter school represent lower middle class immigrant families. About half the kids are from single parent homes. It speaks well of their parents instilling a strong work ethic and an eye to the future when a 17 year old is willing to work 20 hours a week in the summer to help them get ahead in life.
Several kids that came through our internships have been hired full time in the years since the program started. About half of them have become long term employees. The rest left for better paying jobs or college.
Our company's next generation of middle management leaders will come from this group of kids in their late teens/early 20s. We have so few quality employees in their 30s that the 20 somethings are already filling key supervisor positions.
Desperate for quality employees, my company signed onto a work study program in cooperation with a local charter high school almost 10 years ago. The paid internships are focused in one department, but many of the kids apply for part time summer seasonal job openings to gain experience in multiple departments.
The parents who put their kids in this inner city charter school represent lower middle class immigrant families. About half the kids are from single parent homes. It speaks well of their parents instilling a strong work ethic and an eye to the future when a 17 year old is willing to work 20 hours a week in the summer to help them get ahead in life.
Several kids that came through our internships have been hired full time in the years since the program started. About half of them have become long term employees. The rest left for better paying jobs or college.
Our company's next generation of middle management leaders will come from this group of kids in their late teens/early 20s. We have so few quality employees in their 30s that the 20 somethings are already filling key supervisor positions.
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 4th Sep