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RE: Good for him and the right decision
Posted by GregGold
1st Aug
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Windmills - A Threat to Endangered Species
Posted by Albastru
4th Aug
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Wind Turbines
It would indeed be a good thing to have a president that does not throw money away on poliitically correct boondoggles. The wind and solar "industries" are two that are ripe for the pruning.
Posted by midnighteye
1st Aug
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Good for him.
The Obama campaign hopes to make hay of Romneys decision, which would affected manufacturing jobs in at least one swing state.
Let him. Decades of alternative energy subsidies going back to before Carter have brought us to the sad state of affairs we are in today. (My first professional programming gig was due entirely to wind turbine subsidies back in the early '80s) So let Obama stand up and continue to defend this policy after another 4 years of failed and corrupt green policy.
And David, when you point out that The PTC was created under the Energy Policy Act of 1992 and signed into law by Republican George H. Bush, are you suggesting that Romney should continue bad policy simply because a party predecessor from 20 years ago (who was fired by the voters, by the way) thought it was a good idea? In any other context, you'd call such an approach to policy as regressive and moronic.
Let him. Decades of alternative energy subsidies going back to before Carter have brought us to the sad state of affairs we are in today. (My first professional programming gig was due entirely to wind turbine subsidies back in the early '80s) So let Obama stand up and continue to defend this policy after another 4 years of failed and corrupt green policy.
And David, when you point out that The PTC was created under the Energy Policy Act of 1992 and signed into law by Republican George H. Bush, are you suggesting that Romney should continue bad policy simply because a party predecessor from 20 years ago (who was fired by the voters, by the way) thought it was a good idea? In any other context, you'd call such an approach to policy as regressive and moronic.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
Updated - 1st Aug
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The right decision.
GE paid $0.00 corporate income taxes in 2011 because of green tax credits.
Rant all you want about decades of oil industry subsidies, NEVER has an oil business paid NOTHING in corporate income taxes.
Rant all you want about decades of oil industry subsidies, NEVER has an oil business paid NOTHING in corporate income taxes.
Posted by Hates Idiots
1st Aug
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RE: Good for him and the right decision
Yes!
You know who is going to scream the loudest? The CEO of GE who is Obama's Job Czar....and just exported the whole xray division out of Wisconsin to China..
The odd thing is the greenie people who will moan the loudest are the same ones who protest getting rid of a prairie dog colony but don't seem to mind all of the avian species and bats that windpower chops up (not to mention they're a pain in the tush to live around). Without the rest of us paying for them, they'll never pay for themselves and be gone.
Hopefully he's elected, hopefully he'll put a stop to this kind if buffoonery!
You know who is going to scream the loudest? The CEO of GE who is Obama's Job Czar....and just exported the whole xray division out of Wisconsin to China..
The odd thing is the greenie people who will moan the loudest are the same ones who protest getting rid of a prairie dog colony but don't seem to mind all of the avian species and bats that windpower chops up (not to mention they're a pain in the tush to live around). Without the rest of us paying for them, they'll never pay for themselves and be gone.
Hopefully he's elected, hopefully he'll put a stop to this kind if buffoonery!
Posted by GregGold
1st Aug
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Big Oil
"Meanwhile [Romney] supports $4 billion in oil and gas subsidies for companies that have rarely been more profitable".
Posted by theotherwill
1st Aug
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I say again.
GE paid $0.00 corporate income taxes in 2011 because of green tax credits.
Rant all you want about decades of oil industry subsidies, but NEVER has an oil business paid NOTHING in corporate income taxes.
I say, get rid of all subsidies and let the market go where it wants. If oil is really that expensive without subsidies than renewable energy will gain ground in the market.
I just hate my tax dollars going to ANY OF THEM.
With my tax dollars back in my pocket I'll be able to afford the higher prices for energy.
Rant all you want about decades of oil industry subsidies, but NEVER has an oil business paid NOTHING in corporate income taxes.
I say, get rid of all subsidies and let the market go where it wants. If oil is really that expensive without subsidies than renewable energy will gain ground in the market.
I just hate my tax dollars going to ANY OF THEM.
With my tax dollars back in my pocket I'll be able to afford the higher prices for energy.
Posted by Hates Idiots
1st Aug
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Natural gas is the way to go.
Natural gas is the future of energy. It is replacing dirty, dangerous, expensive coal and nuclear plants. It is producing the electricity for electric cars. It will directly fuel cars,pickup trucks, vans, buses, long haul trucks, dump trucks, locomotives, aircraft, ships etc. It will keep us out of more useless wars, where we shed our blood and money. Here are over 400 recent links for you: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NbaKYme3bqOw0b6KMxXSjOLHLNeflalPy9gIAiTYFMQ/edit
Posted by ronwagn
1st Aug
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Windmills - A Threat to Endangered Species
Windmills kill nearly half a million birds a year, according to a Fish and Wildlife estimate. The American Bird Conservancy projected that the number could more than double in 20 years if the administration realizes its goal for wind power. For years, the wind energy industry has had a license to kill golden eagles and lots of other migratory birds.
Over the past two decades, the federal government has prosecuted hundreds of cases against oil and gas producers and electricity producers for violating some of America's oldest wildlife-protection laws: the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Eagle Protection Act.
But the Obama administration has never prosecuted the wind industry despite myriad examples of widespread, unpermitted bird kills by turbines.
Last June, the Los Angeles Times reported that about 70 golden eagles are being killed per year by the wind turbines at Altamont Pass, about 20 miles east of Oakland, Calif. A 2008 study funded by the Alameda County Community Development Agency estimated that about 2,400 raptors, including burrowing owls, American kestrels, and red-tailed hawksas well as about 7,500 other birds, nearly all of which are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Actare being killed every year by the turbines at Altamont.
So keep on pushing on this "green energy" while species are going extinct because people refuse to see the main reason why we are running out of fuel: OVERPOPULATION. We shouldn't focus on how we can rape our planet of more resources we should focus on reducing the world population and then all the problems will be solved.
Check this out: http://www.vhemt.org/
Over the past two decades, the federal government has prosecuted hundreds of cases against oil and gas producers and electricity producers for violating some of America's oldest wildlife-protection laws: the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Eagle Protection Act.
But the Obama administration has never prosecuted the wind industry despite myriad examples of widespread, unpermitted bird kills by turbines.
Last June, the Los Angeles Times reported that about 70 golden eagles are being killed per year by the wind turbines at Altamont Pass, about 20 miles east of Oakland, Calif. A 2008 study funded by the Alameda County Community Development Agency estimated that about 2,400 raptors, including burrowing owls, American kestrels, and red-tailed hawksas well as about 7,500 other birds, nearly all of which are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Actare being killed every year by the turbines at Altamont.
So keep on pushing on this "green energy" while species are going extinct because people refuse to see the main reason why we are running out of fuel: OVERPOPULATION. We shouldn't focus on how we can rape our planet of more resources we should focus on reducing the world population and then all the problems will be solved.
Check this out: http://www.vhemt.org/
Posted by Albastru
4th Aug