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    <title><![CDATA[Discussion on Biden: Great city infrastructure in China, not America ]]></title>
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        <title><![CDATA[&quot;investment&quot;]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-10810-73352]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[When you're a productive nation of savers, &quot;investment&quot; is a different animal to when you're financing your investment out of funds borrowed from that same nation of savers. just saying..]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[loic bellet]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:21:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[People need to look beyond..]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Trucking anything over long distances is inherently uneconomical compared to moving it my rail. Just think how many more tractor / trailer trucks and drivers are required to transport the load carried by a single Santa Fe goods carrying train. Figure out the fuel / kg / mile cost difference. I know my argument would not go down with most Americans who have been raised on the door to door transport in their gas guzzling vehicles. I will take train transport over driving any day as I did for more than 6 years in Chicago. I had the time to catch up on my technical reading without the tension of any fender benders or high blood pressure. At 67 I look much younger than most Americans at 50.  I have a very comfortable retired living AND can afford my own medicare, even without any health insurance.To those - Americans - who are talking about European countries going bankrupt had better look at the figures owed by yourselves. Even your economy is living on borrowed time. Don't think only in comparative terms. Learn to think in absolute terms. Just wait till Chinese products find enough outlet elsewhere and they stop lending you the money !!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[pmshah@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:26 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I'm not arguing with those conclusions.  They are mostly correct.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[What I am arguing is what our politicians define as &quot;investing in infrastructure&quot;.  It's a popular, well-tested soundbite.  But it's also synonymous with &quot;boondoggle&quot;.  Investing trillions in high-speed trains is going to do absolutely nothing to solve the problems described in your link.  Actually, boondoggles only divert and deprive resources from actual infrastructure maintenance.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 04:07:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Didn't you know?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-10810-73341]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[The Messenger always gets shot first!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[kwickset@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:57:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Go to the sources mentioned in the article]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-10810-73309]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[instead of throwing around opinions and political invective.for examplefrom The American Society of Civil Engineers web site athttp://www.asce.org/Infrastructure/Report-Card/ASCE-s-economic-study-in-the-news/&quot;Deteriorating surface transportation infrastructure will cost the American economy more than 870,000 jobs and suppress the growth of the country???s gross domestic product by $3.1 trillion by 2020.That???s according to the report ???Failure to Act: The Economic Impact of Current Investment Trends on Surface Transportation Infrastructure,??? released July 27 by the American Society of Civil Engineers.The report finds that, in 2010, deficiencies in America???s roads, bridges, and transit systems cost American households and businesses more than $129 billion. That includes vehicle operating costs, delays in travel time, and safety and environmental costs.If investments in surface transportation infrastructure are not made soon, those costs will grow exponentially, the report warns.&quot;]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Cmd_Line_Dino]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:26:38 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Archaic, compared to whom?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Our infrastructure is still ahead of what 90% of the world's population gets to endure.  Yes, it's not what it could or should be.  But it's not as dire as promoted either.  The unfortunate fact is that when politicians throw the word &quot;infrastructure&quot; about, it's not about building or rebuilding what actually needs building or rebuilding, but about spending other people's money on their pork projects and beneficiaries, or worse, &quot;social engineering&quot;.And Europe is ahead of us in many other ways too.  They're far closer to bankruptcy than we are as well.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 05:13:10 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Hate?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Bud, I was just stating facts. Why don't you go ahead and see for yourself(ves) and come out of the ivory tower and take a good hard look. Get past your prejudices and see the world as it really is. There was not one hateful statement in my post, only fact. Sometimes people confuse unpleasant facts with emotions. It is the true &quot;inconvenient truth&quot; that America faces. Hiding under the &quot;hate&quot; card is not going to change things. America is doomed if the situation does not change.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Arctic Char]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:09:56 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[John McGrew]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sorry John, I didn't read far enough down the line here to see someone else obviously agreed with my opinion. Had I read it, I wouldn't have responded.Maybe.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[lonv166]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:47:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Quoting Biden]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Gee John, you forgot to mention Europe is also a place where 20 years ago people slept with their livestock.Oh, no, I'm wrong!Europe is so far ahead of the states, and always have been. You can thank our oil companies back in the early 1900's for that. Next time John, don't pick your bits and pieces, look at the complete subject. The point is America is archaic when it comes to infrastructure.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[lonv166]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:45:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Being negative ... not for me]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[15 April 1904, New York Sun, pg. 6, col. 5:Their Points of View.'Twixt optimist and pessimistThe difference is droll;The optimist the doughnut sees -The pessimist the hole.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Cmd_Line_Dino]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:46:26 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Re: Hate Much?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If fact equals hate...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GregGold]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:01:15 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[YES!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It is bad over here not good. We have not kept up or upgraded the transportation issue is hot and needs decades of work to bring it up to acceptable it never will be first class. No wonder the US can not compete.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Altotus]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:44:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Hate much?]]></title>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Cmd_Line_Dino]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:56:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Biden]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Apples to oranges.  Biden compares the best of a modern facility on one hand with the worst of a modern slum on the other.  Why doesn't he compare the air quality in Bozeman, Montana to that in Bejing, China?  Or why doesn't he compare the Chinese train station with Chinese city streets at night?&quot;Thousands of miles of high-speed rail systems are being built in Europe and Asia, connecting population and economic centers. &quot;Connecting Paris to Brussels to Bonn is like connecting New York City to Philadelphia to the District of Columbia.  Try connecting NYC to LA to Chicago with high speed rail and get back to me with the cost. And then tell me who's going to pay for it.  Oh, yeah, the rich.  Ri-ight.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bb_apptix]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:23:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Communist Creations]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Let's take a look at how China affords all these great cities, and then look at what the people live in.  China has an abundance of cheap labor, like every citizen in China with the exception of the chosen few.  They can build and maintain anything that they could possibly want with all their cheap labor.  But let's look at how the average Chinese lives, in impoverished housing stacked on top of each other, some with several families living in one apartment.  Most can't afford a vehicle and require mass transit to get around, which works out just fine with all the cheap labor they have to build all this mass transit.  You just can't compete with communist, no how, no way....]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tinman57]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:13:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Quoting Biden]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Biden's is a narrow-minded snob. He traveled here and there...whatever! He probably only stayed in the most expensive places in the largest towns. I've been to Dulles AP and it was pretty nice. We have two nice airports in our town. Okay, well one is named Bush Intercontinental Airport, so I guess Biden wouldn't like it no matter what the conditions are. Both of our airports are continually improving and modernizing all of it's facilities.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Peggy Solovyov]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:51:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Infrastructure]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Infrastructure is not the problem with America's cities. If you try to build something nice in America nowadays, the new inhabitants of the inner cities will steal, vandalize, or destroy it. 100 years ago, when a different type of inhabitant lived in the cities in America, people had respect for property. In Malasia and Singapore, the penalty for graffiti is caning (20 whips to the rearend with a piece of cane).Today in America's cities, you see graffiti at best, and copper, brass, and stainless torn off at worst so it can be sold to scrapyards and shipped to China. If you want to change the infrastructure, you must change the culture first. Go to any large American city (not center city where the money is) and take a walk in the ghetto. If you come back alive you will realize what the real problem is with the formerly great American cities. They have been in decline since the end of WW2.Biden is an idiot if he does not realize this.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Arctic Char]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:18:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[We'd be fine...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...if we actually spent the money collected in the name of maintaining and repairing the highways on repairing and maintaining the highways.  Instead, much of it is diverted in the name of &quot;alternative&quot; transportation, and the rest is handed out as political spoils instead of being deployed in an efficient or even rational manner.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:48:00 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[For what we've spent on &quot;stimulus&quot;...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.smartplanet.com/forum/discussions/1-10810-73029]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[...there should not be a crack or pothole left in this country.  So you can understand why many of us remain skeptical when the same people keep suggesting we should spend more in the hope that they'll get around to it right this time.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:45:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Running your mouth does not bring jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Ok then lets get on with re-building this country, put people back to work.  For the 4 trillion wasted with banks we could have replaced every bridge in the country and put a 1,000,000.00 back to work.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jpwalkerjr]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:06:05 -0700</pubDate>
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