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The energy transition juggernaut

These polls illustrate one more time that if the general populace is subjected to the BIG LIE continuously they will believe it.

So it is with the energy situation. We are subjected to tremendous propaganda pressure to change the systems that work. And then we are told we can be pure and holy if we spend more for less energy.

is to get behind it and make it successful. If that ever happens, the current opponents of the energy sources we currently have available will most likely find some fatal fault with it. I believe most of them simply hate success and support the improbable.

Those who believe that our consumption of fossil fuels is responsible for Climate Change conveniently ignore any evidence that refutes their beliefs (even to the point of inventing the data that does support them), and when Global Warming became an embarrasment they defined the problem as Climate Change. The arrogance is quite astounding, almost as though no one has the intelligence to notice the switch.

The folks who are involved in the production of energy through "traditional means," i.e. the combustion of fossil fuels or nuclear fuels, are required to defend their industries from their detractors who atack them through public opinion and government meddling. This is described in the article as attacking the new "Green" or renewable technologies and attempting to suppress them.

The idea of "free" energy from the sun through solar cells sounds like a grand accomplishment, and I would very much like to see it work. The problems with that technology are many, and it will be probably decades before a solar cell will make economic sense. I have never seen a photovoltaic cell, for example, that would ever be able to produce the amount of energy that was required to produce the photocell itself. Somehow, the energy required to produce the photocell was never included in the cost analysis.

Nothing is free. The laws of thermodynamics are not going to be revoked.

Where in the Hell do these people come from. Stating they surveyed a number of people and on average they would be willing to pay $162.00 more in cost, are they kidding? I always find these polls interesting because I have never known even one person that was included. I cant even afford my bill now...What else are they going to steal from people until they finally stand up and say with a unified voice, " your not taking anything else from me ever again".

...people answer polls much differently than they act with their own money. Throw in some psychology about appearances, and such polls become utterly meaningless.

A stranger asks a question, and the polled person hears "Are you willing to pay $162 more a year to save the planet, or are you willing to screw it all just for your own selfish desires?".

Solar and wind energy capturing devices as well as nuclear are not alternative energy sources. They are extensions of the fossil fuel supply system. There is an illusion of looking at the trees and not the forest in the ???Renewable??? energy world. Not seeing the systems, machineries, fossil fuel uses and environmental degradation that create the devices to capture the sun, wind and biofuels allows myopia and false claims of renewable, clean, green and sustainable.

Energy Return on Energy Invested (ERoEI) is only a part of the equation. There is a massive infrastructure of mining, processing, manufacturing, fabricating, installation, transportation and the associated environmental assaults. Each of these processes and machines may only add a miniscule amount of energy to the final component of solar or wind devices yet the devices cannot arise without them. There would be no devices with out this infrastructure.