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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
Seems like the most immediate application is instant communication (even to a distant planet like Mars or one of the Voyagers). Being able to eliminate the telecom lag and associated interference is a big deal. Also, it's 100% secure, so big military applications as well.
I don't really get the teleportation thing though. Yes, energy = matter and all, but actually changing the energy on the other side to something substantial...
I kind of thought at the time that they announced a proton was "teleported" that they really just located the matched (i.e. entagled) proton and never really teleported it at all.
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If I understand this correctly, there would need to be someone at each end to see the energy happening. Otherwise, what purpose would it serve if no one could see the result?
Now if you could teleport someone, say, 15+ billion light years away, you could see how and why the Universe was created. But be wary of the big blast. 
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If this can become cost effective...putting up solar power gathering
stations in polar position relative to the sun will give us meatsacks
on earth all the electricity we need! Cheers to the innovators (:
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possible uses
The first use would be to teleoperate Mars rovers (and probes elsewhere.
With the energy teleportation, the first use for that could be to power heat engines or thermal to electric power provision for space craft.
If huge amounts can be teleported, you can do away with the laser in laser launch and light sails. You could leave the reactors on the ground.
I would suggest that Bose-Einstein condensates are the way to go before extremely complex devices such as virii could be teleported (if ever). You have to have a homogenous mass at the quantum level, then separate it -very carefully- for entanglement to work, IIRC. If that works, take say eight chunks of BEC split to 16, to transmit one byte of information instantaneously. Energy would be more problematic, as you'd soon change the state of matter to where it wouldn't work.
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
The responders above that seem to be hoping that teleportation is instantaneous need to re-read the article. Note that transmission is at the speed of light, not instantaneous.
We already knew how to transport information using entanglement. The new thing in this article is the transmission of energy using entanglement. Any applications of this research should therefore pertain to the teleportation of energy, not information.
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Half-Life, anybody?
Anybody who's played the half-life games would see where all of this comes into play. It's an interesting topic. If they can make it work practically, the possibilities are endless.
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If this means instantaneous communication between two very distant points, then lets call it an ansible and start going after the Formics.
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There are some wild ideas that come up with the mention of teleportation. How about one that fits with the energy transfer. One of the biggest problems with electric cars is the inefficiency, cost, and weight of batteries. Is it possible that the energy could be transmitted from central sources to vehicles? That would be a real breakthrough.
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
about the same time as the ansible (1966), Roccannon's World. "We All Died at Breakaway Station" (1987) by Richard C Meredith provides for a light-speed carrier of FTL communications (the difference between phase velocity and group velocity)
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It could be the death of the internet, we make friends online quite easily, and chat to them on a daily basis. often these online friendships last for many years... I have a group of friends who I feel close to. at least in one sense. I'm very far away from everyone.
I have met a few of them in meatspace, but the cost of an airticket and the time it takes to get here, or for me, there, is prohibitive. It would be lovely to drop a line to let people know that I'd be coming over to meet them at their local cafe, or friends in the middle of the US to join me here for a walk on the local beach. How our lives would change. the concept of borders would rapidly die... would governments need a way to keep people out? not from fear of terrorism, but from a sheer volume of people suddenly appearing in Paris for lunch?
So many interesting problems would come up, but I think the world might be better off for it... no more cars would mean more space for homes, parks and things as the road space would not be required, no more air travel either.
Wolfie Rankin
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Well, doesn't 'change' take finite amount of time to travel? This theory assumes that quantum changes can instantaneously travel. Any idea about the nature of 'travel'.
So, according this theory, information travels without any of conduction, convection, radiation, or any other currently modes of energy travel.
Most importantly, is there any energy required to transport energy at all or it is completely 'free of cost'?
I would appreciate thinkers to keep me in loop via email gokulkarni@yahoo.com
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this would make war and terrorism unstoppable!!!
beware!
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I'm not going to clobber this but...
I cant see how its much use in practical terms. Communications perhaps, like entanglement already enables.
The energy isnt technically even electricity, its sort of kinetic and misniscule beyond belief. Also, the flux transitions occur at light-speed, not instantaneously like they do in entanglement.
The energy transmitted is a small movement of the alignment of structures inside a single atom and is many times smaller than the electrical power the sensor uses to detect and amplify it into macro range.
For example the Mars Rover, and other such vehicles, wouldnt benefit much. We could right now aim a powerful laser at Mars and transmit instructions to it with less delay than with radio waves, but still enough of a delay to be impracticable, along with the problem of aiming and sustaining such a powerful light beam.
The aiming problem would be eliminated, but phonon propagation delay still exists.
To power something like a vehicle remotely would require that its entire mass equivalent be supplied in quantum-coupled energy from outside, meaning that the entire vehicle's mass be coupled proton-for-proton to an external equivalent, or it could not supply enough. The best that one could hope for is to nullify its mass perhaps, meaning it has less inertia and momentum and is therefore more energy-efficient to move using an onboard power source.
This isnt a 'free power' solution either, its a system of transmitting tiny amounts of energy (not information) losslessly over distance. As I understand it (and the maths is over my head) what you put it, you get out - but as this is theoretical work no-one knows what overheads the equipment needed to do this would have. Conventional physics dictate that distance attenuates energy regardless of whether the receiving end is active or passive, and I'd be very surprised if this turns out to be passive reception as well as lossless transmission.
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This is absolute BS designed to sell copies of Scientific American to an illiterate public who learned quantum physics from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
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The Universe is governed by the laws of thought
"Is the universe governed by the laws of matter or information?"
Matter is a form of energy. Energy is the potential to do work. To do work requires thought. The Universe is pure thought.
jamiller62 the biggest BS comes from those who make bold but completely unsupported pronouncements.
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
And the notion that small changes in a subatomic particle indicates energy transfer isn't an unsupported pronouncement? Publish or perish, even if it's crap is the mantra of academia.
Oh, but they're the high priests of science and how dare a mere mundane challenge like me them!?!?! The day they make a commercially viable product based on this discovery is the day I will believe.
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OK, so they can transfer energy across space to alter the state of another photon, atom or ion. If it can be done with one it can be done with many. If we can measure the outcome for one we can measure the outcome for many. Taken to the next obvious conclusion, measurement also allows for a screening process to take place. Given all that, here is the extreme leap that will drive jamiller62 nuts. We will be able to use this capability to transport people. Given those two leaps, we could take a trip to see a friend in Florida and at the same time have all cancer cells screened from our bodies because of the measureable differences of the cancer atoms.
So all you physists out there get those atoms buzzing (seeing image of Star Trek transported room with great sound effects). Star Trek gave us cell phones and a slew of other great innovations because it motivated people to figure out how it could be done. This is your next challenge. Figure out how to alter the cancer atoms. Forget drugs and chemo, just exchange the bad cells for the good ones in the lab. Then repeat the process in people. Then measure the state for the next disease and repeat. No wonder everyone in those episodes were so healthy.
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
If this can be used usefully, it will definitely be a paradigm shift in
the energy industry. Not only will it allow Solar Arrays to orbit the
sun and deliver power to earth, it will also eliminate the need for
mobile energy storage. Things like gas tanks, fuel cells, solid-state
rockets, could be obsolete because of the bulk of carrying that fuel.
Electric cars could use "On-Demand" power. Space craft could be made
much lighter and use electric propulsion, to go much farther and faster
than current space craft.
Very cool.
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
To quote HexHammer67:
"I cant see how its much use in practical terms. Communications perhaps, like entanglement already enables.
The energy isnt technically even electricity, its sort of kinetic and misniscule beyond belief. Also, the flux transitions occur at light-speed, not instantaneously like they do in entanglement.
The energy transmitted is a small movement of the alignment of structures inside a single atom and is many times smaller than the electrical power the sensor uses to detect and amplify it into macro range."
So what if it's miniscule, kinetic, etc. So are the very electrical impulses we use for this very
communication we are doing right now. The process of applying voltage and current to the sources and inputs of computer circuits and then using the outputs of energy along the way to produce useful information is designed with logic and very precise expectations both before and after.
This is exactly like the described teleportation of energy, so it also can be the teleportation of information. Both are interchangeable. Such has been the case even all the way back to smoke signals, for crying out loud. (That's modifying smoke which is seen, so information is transferred. I know, it's a stretch but still an information transfer. It also requires that the sender and receiver both be expecting the other to exist.)
So, my first application of choice would be to implement a true quantum computing system using the energy teleportation. That would really be a wireless system...
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
Although I have not read the full report I'm not sure that the energy travels at the speed of light as others have quoted. The 'speed of light' comment is part of the Technology Review, not the main article. If the transfer is immediate, as is normal entanglement events, then that does have profound implications for long distance energy transfer - as well as information transfer.
The effect quoted is causing displacement not generating electricity. However if the displacement can be linked to something like a Nano-piezoelectric generator, or used to displace an electron into a different orbit, then it would seem to potentially offer efficient electrical transfer.
Yes the amount of energy transferred in the experiment is minuscule - but so was Voltas' first battery output. The big question is how efficiently the effect can be scaled up.
I don't see this as a route to physical teleportation. Mater = energy yes, but this forgets that the both halves of the entanglement pair have to be created together. So the physical instance of 'receiver' has to then be dispatched, by normal physical means, to wherever the energy is destined to be used. Great for powering Mars rovers, or maybe cars eventually - but Start Trek might have to wait a while ;o)
I really hope this is true - and not another 'Cold Fusion' type discovery that no one else can replicate - we will see soon I hope.
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Caffeinated85 - "Not only will it allow Solar Arrays to orbit the
sun and deliver power to earth"
I'm very far from a physicist but if they _could_ get this to work with regards to solar panels, why would they have to orbit the earth?
We could assemble them in space, placing them in closer to the Sun, obviously as far as they could without melting, and allow them to remain in a stationary location relative to the Sun. Permanent, continual Solar energy, converted and transmitted back to Earth at the speed of light.
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Seems the key would be developing the ability to precisely chose the endpoint for the energy being teleported. Knowing mankind we'll have an energy disruptor gun before anything beneficial.
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"Matter is a form of energy. Energy is the potential to do work. To do work requires thought. The Universe is pure thought."
I think, therefore it is.
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How does he know that the phonon didn't travel across the intermediate ions? Did he measure them all?
Sounds like a lot of supposition to me.
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Put a high efficiency solar collector in space and transport the energy to Earth. After a short time the cost of electricity will be minimal
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
Entanglement, less the transport of energy, appears to take place instantaneously, or at least many times the speed of light. Is it possible that the information or energy travels by one of those postulated other dimensions?
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I'm already overloaded with (unfortunately lossless) teleported spam emails.... I think there's a Law of Thermodynamics that hasn't been considered here yet.
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quantum computing. smaller, faster, lower power. seems the obvious direction, one step further than quantum tunneling as seen in current semiconductors.
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I think it's time
to start saving for my new Quantumdrive car...
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RE: Physicist proves that teleportation of energy is possible
It would seem to me that Tesla's transmitted power is a possibility here if the technique will scale sufficiently. Imagine a power grid with 0% loss in transmission.
A physicist has demonstrated that teleportation of energy is possible, a discovery that has profound implications for the study of physics.
According to Hotta, the measurement on the first particle injects quantum energy into the system. By carefully choosing the measurement to do on the second particle, it is possible to extract the original energy, Hotta says.
