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Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even

By | March 14, 2011, 4:05 PM PDT

While there are plenty of environmental (and political) reasons to buy a hybrid car, money isn’t one of them — at least for now.

According to a study from Cargurus.com, gas prices would have to reach about $7 in order for some hybrids to break even in terms of expense as compared to their non-hybrid cousins.

The website analyzed 43 hybrids from 2003 to 2010 and found that on average most hybrids cost 17 percent — about $6,400 — more than their gasoline-powered counterparts.

That said, with gas prices increasing the way they are currently, investing in a Toyota Camry Hybrid or a Ford Escape Hybrid would actually be the most cost-efficient thing to do in the long run.

The Toyota Camry Hybrid would need gas to rise to about $4 a gallon — which it’s already at in some parts of the country — to break even. The Ford Escape Hybrid showed a break even point of $2.50 per gallon.

Currently the Camry hybrid costs about $3,300 more than the non-hybrid version, while the Ford Escape Hybrid is $3,500 more than the conventional model.

On the other hand, gas would have to cost $15 per gallon for the cost of a Cadillac Escalade Hybrid to break even.

Curiously, the Prius was not included in this study because it doesn’t have a gas-powered equivalent.

While cost is something that always comes up when there is a discussion about hybrids and electric vehicles, it is important to note that at a time of increased political and environmental uncertainty, fuel-efficient cars have plenty of advantages over their gasoline-powered counterparts, beyond just price. They produce less emissions (for the same distance traveled) and they help cut our dependence on foreign oil (eventually allowing us to become energy-independent as a country).

As U.S. president Barack Obama said at a press conference last week, “We’ve got to make our economy more energy-efficient and energy-independent over the long run.”

Update: The total cost of ownership for the hybrid and non-hybrid models was compared for each vehicle to determine the total cost of ownership premium for hybrids. This total cost of ownership included the initial purchase price, lost value in terms of depreciation and total gas costs over the time period analyzed.

Via Detroit Free Press

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Define break even.
Your article and cargurus.com does not explain how they get those numbers quoted.

Do the numbers take into account the total cost of ownership or is it a narrow focus on gas usage alone?

Keep in mind that Prius repairs cost over 8 percent more than repairs to a conventional car the same size.
Posted by Hates Idiots
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
Only $7 a gallon?

We're already paying ?1.35 per litre in the UK - ?6.13 or nearly
US$10 per (UK) gallon. Even allowing for 1.2 US gallons=1 UK
gallon, we're still way over the $7 quoted.

And yet...
Posted by gjm123
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
Did whoever wrote the headline even read the story? The Escape breaks even $2.50? Who wrote the headline? Glen Beck, Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh?
Posted by skf
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
First of all, with the Camry Hybrid, they are not comparing apples to
apples.

The closest Camry to the TCH is the XLE. And the XLE is about
$1600 less than the TCH.

Payoff is about 4 years.
Posted by lars@...
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
The piece fails to consider the federal tax credit available when one purchases an electric or hybrid auto. This is a major failing.
Posted by tennisguy
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
Break even over what time period? Without that all the numbers are meaningless.
Posted by schnitz
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
I don't know how the folks at cargurus.com calculated it, but when
I started looking at hybrids back when the Prius was new, I
calculated how much gas a comparable non-hybrid would
consume in 100,000 miles.

For the Prius, I used a 4-door Yaris for compairson, since there
isn't a non-hybrid Prius and then calculated the amount of gas
each would consume in 100,000 miles, subtracted the cost of the
Yaris from the cost of the Prius, and divided that number by the
amount of fuel saved, and came up with $5+/gal as a break even
price.

I used 100,000 miles 'cause that was the length of the battery
pack guarantee, and after that you may be looking at a multi-
kilobuck batery pack replacement.
Posted by CodeCurmudgeon
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
Last I looked, lithium battery pack replacement was between $7K and $8K - then there's the environmental damage from lithium mining and the waste products, then dealing with the waste after the cells are done....I didn't see that mentioned..

As for U.K. fuel prices, the bulk of their price are taxes..not the fuel stocks. Comparison of fuel prices between the US and the UK is not a valid exercise.
Posted by GregGold
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
Your first sentence says it. For God's sake (literally), the reason for buying a hybrid should be to help lower the rate we burn fossil fuels not so save money.

Of course moving back to the cities, mass transit such as high speed trains and the mandating of higher mpg would help.
Posted by Sandwedge66
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
The Prius is substantially bigger than the Yaris:
176 inches long on a 106 inch wheelbase vs 151 inches on a 97 inch wheelbase (rounded)
21.6 cubic feet of cargo space vs 9.3 cubic feet
From the Toyota website
Posted by hoodedswan
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
We (in Maine) own a 2007 Prius with over 100,000 miles on the
odometer (we bought it used with about 17,000). We get a little over
50 mpg most of the year, down to 45 when it is cold, and a lot of
that is Interstate or similar travel miles at prevailing traffic speeds.
The only service has been oil, filter, and tire changes. (Major
scheduled maintenance expected soon.) There was recent body
work (rear crumple zone - the other guy paid). There are a number
of components that would be expensive to service and replace on
non-hybrids that don't even exist on a Prius.

Some states mandate a drive train (including traction battery)
warranty of 150,000 miles, and there are plenty of Prii on the road
approaching or past 300,000 miles. The price of a new traction
battery is under $2,500 installed, but apparently there are plenty of
"gently used" batteries out there for under $1,200, from wrecked
vehicles that suffered extensive body damage that did not affect the
battery. The batteries can be recycled in several ways, and the
lithium reclaimed. Lithium mining damage is apparently "old news" -
mining many elements used to involve more environmental woe
than preent methods.
Posted by b2j2
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
We (in Maine) own a 2007 Prius with over 100,000 miles on the
odometer (we bought it used with about 17,000). We get a little over 50
mpg most of the year, down to 45 when it is cold, and a lot of that is
Interstate or similar travel miles at prevailing traffic speeds. The only
service has been oil, filter, and tire changes. (Major scheduled
maintenance expected soon.) There was recent body work (rear
crumple zone - the other guy paid). There are a number of components
that would be expensive to service and replace on non-hybrids that don't
even exist on a Prius.

Some states mandate a drive train (including traction battery) warranty of
150,000 miles, and there are plenty of Prii on the road approaching or
past 300,000 miles. The price of a new traction battery is under $2,500
installed, but apparently there are plenty of "gently used" batteries out
there for under $1,200, from wrecked vehicles that suffered extensive
body damage that did not affect the battery. The batteries can be
recycled in several ways, and the lithium reclaimed. Lithium mining
damage is apparently "old news" - mining many elements used to
involve more environmental woe than preent methods.
Posted by b2j2
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
In order to buy your coal burning Volt the dealers are charging a $5000 premium according to Consumer Reports. This winter they got between 23 to 28 miles before the gas engine kicked in unless it was below 26 degrees, then the gas engine runs all the time to provide heat. The battery supplied heat is "tepid" according to CR. It could also be a nuclear powered car I suppose, it depends where your power comes from. I think I'll pass.
Posted by philwhite42@...
15th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
Now in Japan it is 160 yen per litre (4 litres =3.76 gal) so that is about 600 yen to the gallon. At 80 yen to the dollar gas is $7.50 a gallon right now. Are hybrids popular here? You bet! The hybrids and the 'K' Car (660cc engines) are the biggest sellers on the auto market.
Posted by jor55
16th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
b2j2 well thought out answer. Clearly you know what you are doing before you do it. I will take your answer into consideration when buying a new car this summer. Thank you.
Posted by IMWeira
16th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
All these calculations and comments about cost comparisons between conventional cars and hybrids are meaningless. The market is being manipulated by government to subsidise electric car usage at the expense (literally) of conventional cars.

People boast about how off-mains rechargeable cars are cheap to run. Well of course they are because mains electricity isn't taxed whereas gas is taxed (especially in the UK). So all this amounts to is a hefty subsidy from the many who drive conventional cars to the few who drive off-mains rechargeable electric cars. What do you think is going to happen if and when electric cars take off in a big way? The price of electricity will have to go up - otherwise government will lose out on tax.

The whole idea is crazy economics unless you believe in dangerous global warming. And when people tumble to the fact that the Earth's has only warmed up over the past couple of hundred years at the unalarming rate of 0.4degC per century, the enthusiasm for electric cars will fade away.

As for the Prius, that's just an economic joke. Its electricity is derived from its internal combustion engine not from the mains so it is just as expensive as the fuel used to generate it (more so, actually, because of losses in the conversion process). The only theoretical advantage of this type of car is that some electricty is generated during light regenerative braking. However in practice this makes such a marginal difference that it would never outweigh the additional costs of manufacture.
Posted by cosserat@...
16th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
I question this based on What payback. without it the piece is fluff. I keep my cars until they rust out from under me. bet the payback in that scenario is a lot less than $7.00. The whole piece smacks of FUD.
Posted by zclayton3
17th Mar 2011
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RE: Gas would have to cost $7 a gallon for hybrids to break even
the same old economic delusion is assumed: that the cost of
burning gas is what is paid at the pump. where governments
start to acknowledge the true price of burning oil prices are
multiples of U$ price - and still don't actually recover the full
costs.

the reason to buy a hybrid now has nothing to do with your
current ability to pay - it has everything to do with allowing your
children (and theirs) a future.

as we generate larger richer car driving populations on the
planet we are like bacteria blooming a test tube, and our
environment is as limited as the space in the that tube. only by
wide and scaled adoption of EV systems in the developed world
can we hope to mature the technology to allow it to the emerging
standard in all of the high growth economies where people's
desire to own a car is as great as any american's
know,
Posted by byronkw
29th Mar 2011
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