RE: What will the hydrogen economy do with all that water?
sorry to double-comment but...
its pure water... pure. water. Keep it in the car, plug it in when you get
home, and/or pump it into the home electrolyzer unit, and let the grid turn
it back into hydrogen to be pumped back into the car. Hell, make it a
rocket-type car. Let the car do it on board, and, keep the oxygen in a
separate tank so the car doesn't even need to pull in ambient oxygen
because it already has pure oxygen stored on board. Essentially, make it
a closed-loop system.
This would save on costs, fore, the purification of fresh water would be
unnecessary. Intel figured this out a decade ago. They were getting into
water rights issues with their fab-plants using too much water. They
realized they could save $billions because the 'dirty water' after the chip
washing process was cleaner than the original water they were purifying
to begin with. From what I remember, it saved them over $1billion a year
per fab, and near-bankrupted a few local municipalities who were planning
on the large water contract with Intel.
Even if the water is not close-looped, any water leakage is relative to
inefficient engine design. The water could easily be stored and dumped
at set locations, gas stations, etc. As scale kicks in though, tens-to-
hundreds of millions of cars lugging around an extra 5lbs per gallon of
water would definitely add up to major fuel costs.
Solution, link up with Google-maps-Android-style built into cars so that
when a car is at a red light with an adequate processing capability, it
'pisses' the water out so that it goes down the near-by drain so the local
municipalities can handle it and process it accordingly. The visual imagery
of watching the cars around you dump water while at a stop light is very
humorous.
All of this is ridiculous though. Hydrogen is a joke. It costs too much to
produce, is too expensive to move around, its energy density only
compares when highly compressed or below-eskimo-cold, leaks due to
the fact that its Hydrogen.. the smallest element around. By the time you
have materials air-tight enough to stop the leakage, strong enough to
handle the pressures, strong enough to handle a side-swipe collision with
some poor sap stuck on the rr-tracks, and insulating enough to keep it at
the proper temperatures w/out having to constantly, actively cool it... you'll
be using (nano)technology that will also be available to other sectors of
the (energy-storage) industry (and beyond) that will make those
technologies safer, cheaper, more energy dense, more environmentally
friendly, and overall just more practical (read: A123 Systems... buy stock
now).
Hydrogen is a fools errand. Its something thats been dangled in front of
progressives for decades (esp the last 10 years) as the solution to the
problem. Much Much more immediately pressing and necessary is
electric cars in general. Not hydrogen, not battery, solar, etc, just
electric. Once you have this, the rest of it is the power supply. The way
to it is to have a car propelled by an electric motor thats either hybrid or,
even easier... powered by an gasoline powered ICE that is designed to
do one thing... and one thing only; not power the ac, not power the radio,
not turn fan belts or go up and down as I speed up and slow down, it has
one speed... turn on, make electricity. That electricity can then power
much much more efficient engines (electric). It can be stored in batteries
that are connected to a computer thats designed to turn the engine on
when it detects only 5 miles of charge left, and can charge it up for a
minimum amount of time... to 25 miles, or further.
A system like this could use an ICE thats powered by natural gas, liquified
coal, propane, ethanol, bio diesel, standard diesel, or plane old gasoline.
There would be absolutely no necessity for an entire infrastructure
overhall.
The engine would be designed to know its going to run a minimum of 20
miles of charge time... possibly longer, but by no means shorter. It could
power the car directly if the batteries fail to hold a charge. It uses gas.
As prices become more competitive, you could increase the size of the
batteries, you could make the car hybrid, you could substitute the ICE for
a fuel cell or various other engine types. It could be a far more efficient
sterling engine due to the fact it runs at one speed, not 0-100mph plus
idle.
You won't have to worry about plugging in if you're on a 500 mile road trip
because... if you run out of juice... you just pull over to your local BP or
Shell and fill up with plain old gas.
If/when/as hydrogen, lithium ion, nuclear, solar (gets dense enough) you
can sub it out, get rid of the gas.
read: Chevy Volt.
Now, if only we could get the hate group (GM? the government?) to stop
policing the hell out of Toyota and enforcing so many unnecessary recalls,
Toyota might be able to afford to direct the money towards this program
as they originally intended. Kind of almost makes me wonder, though, if
that isn't the point?
Hydrogen is dead. Move on... nothing to see here.