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NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun

By | September 8, 2010, 5:03 PM PDT

Solar Probe Plus is a project that astronauts, scientists, meteorologists, and astronomers have been dreaming of for a half-century. It’s an extraordinary proposal, venturing eight times farther than any previous spacecraft. It will certainly cost more than one billion dollars, and requires engineering and technology that’s never been seen before.

All this for a one-way trip to the sun.

Solar Probe Plus is the name of a project in which an unmanned (obviously), lightweight probe will travel through the sun’s corona, which is essentially the sun’s outer atmosphere. It seeks to answer some of space’s most puzzling questions–why is the corona almost 200 times hotter than the sun’s actual surface? How does the sun create the solar wind, a stream of charged particles that engulfs the solar system in a vast bubble called the heliosphere?

These are basic questions about our own solar system that have so far been unanswerable due to budgetary and technical limitations–but not anymore.

One of the most obvious problems is the immense heat the probe must be able to withstand. That the probe must tolerate heat at 2,600 degrees Fahrenheit is bad enough, but NASA won’t even be able to use the same methods used for probes returning to Earth. In those probes, the outer heat shields “ablate,” or boil away harmlessly–but when the whole point is to carefully conduct particle detection and other measurement, you can’t have part of a dissolved shield mucking up the findings.

But NASA scientists are confident that they’ll be able to create a suitable probe by 2018, the prospective launch date. Solar Probe Plus will arrive at Venus eight weeks after liftoff, conduct 24 orbits of increasing size, and end up about four million miles from the sun–inside Mercury’s orbit, eight times closer to the sun than any previous mission.

Though much of the motivation for Solar Probe Plus is research, there actually are a few legitimate practical reasons to undertake such a mission. Says Discovery:

Solar storms and magnetic disturbances from the sun can disrupt satellites and radio transmission, as well as take out power grids on Earth.

“Right now, predicting space weather is kind of like trying to predict hurricanes without knowing the acceleration effects of the oceans. Without that, you really can’t understand them at all,” Dantzler said.

NASA is expected to make final decisions on the probe’s instruments and sensors this month.

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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
I wonder what kind of life they will find. happy
Posted by ITOdeed
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
Cool! Thanks for posting, but I have a small correction - "venturing
eight times farther than any previous spacecraft" is not quite
correct - the probe will be 8 times closer to the sun than any craft
has been so far.

The Voyager probes are the farthest-traveled man made spacecraft
so far, with Voyager 1 almost 6.5 billion miles from the sun.
Posted by clh201
9th Sep 2010
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Sounds like NASA
we have taken absolutely the worst economic time of most of our lifetimes, with global economies tanking, to choose to spend 1 billion bucks (probably closer to 50 billion) to see how hot the sun is. Sounds like NASA to me.

for 1 million, I will give them a guess.
Posted by collinlv
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
$1B is nothing compared to the trillions we're spending on
foreign wars and handouts to the rich.

$1B in science goes a REALLY long way. For one thing, the
immediate impact is that it creates HIGHLY SKILLED, high wage
jobs, in addition to even more moderately skilled and unskilled
jobs needed to support the infrastructure of such a project.

The real payoff is long-term: scientific discoveries, pushing the
limits of human knowledge, in my opinion are worthy of our time,
resources and effort in and of themselves, but even if you don't
believe that, new discoreries about how the world works nearly
always (if not always) create new economic opportunities and
many times create completely new areas of the economy that
can be exploited by savvy entrepreneurs. The internet was
created by physicists to share data amongst themselves on
subatomic particles and stuff - who would have thought back
then, it would eventually come to dominate our economy and
culture.
Posted by clh201
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
As with all NASA projects, in working out the details of a spacecraft that can survive in that hot an environment, researchers will come up with lots of technologies that can be used in non-exotic areas that will directly benefit the rest of us. As with all basic research, you can't predict what you will discover - you just have to be alert to possibilities as you explore new challenges.
Posted by fred.wagner@...
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
collinlv
09/09/10 | Report as spam

Do not do it then, but do not blame NASA then when a unexpected
Solar storm comes around knocking out satelites an power grid, all
because we did not have the knowledge to predict a solar storm of
that magnitude to the degree require to order the shut down of such
systems.
An if a storm do hit an it is not spotted in time the damage it could
cause to the economy, well you can forget guestimates in the 10s of
billions or even hundreds of billions, it would be in the trillions dollars
of damage well wide, probably last years if not decades for some
countries. All because some small minded people wanted to cancel a
1 billion dollar probe.
Posted by Knowles2
9th Sep 2010
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Good for us all
@collinlv: No payoff for you, loser. We already have lots of
guesses, and most of them are free. That is not the point.

Good data comes at a price. That should not be surprising, since
knowledge has value. The technology you used to read this
article and then respond to it was all made possible by research
and development. None of it was free, and it has brought
immense value to our world.

At the very least, where do you think that $1 billion will be spent?
It will flow into our economy, creating jobs, providing paychecks
for families.

So, save your grumbling over things you cannot grasp and make
an effort to provide some positive contribution to the world.
Posted by SmartAndWorldly
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
So, it is to find out about about solar storms - sounds like what happened in 2012 movie. So NASA is taking the Aztecs seriously and doing something about it. BTW, do you know where is can buy a ticket to that Chinese ship being built?
Posted by Nagesh Tummala
9th Sep 2010
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Directly into the Sun?? OMG!!
I just hope they schedule this to land there at night!
'Cause if they do it during the day, it's gonna get burned up! That Sun is REAL HOT!

http://www.sludge.tk has heard of this happening before!
Posted by PercySludge
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
My guess is that it will find global warming.
Posted by Tom Clabaugh
9th Sep 2010
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Most of the money will go to spacecraft construction and launch
At $1 billion, most of the money will go towards building the spacecraft, it's launch, and controlling it from earth. Relatively little will be spent on new technology R&D.

Why can't this be done in conjunction with ESA or other multi-national space agencies? This research will be valuable for everybody, why should the US go it alone?
Posted by zackers
9th Sep 2010
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"directly into the sun"?
I agree it's going to get really close. But if you said an asteroid was
going to fly "directly into the Earth," I would assume it would smash
into the surface, not skim through the outer atmosphere. Still, that
would be way too close.
Posted by kellycarter
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
Possibly we could think a little harder on the cooling of this craft
by utilizing the sun itself to create the energy to run the cooling system. Remember we will be much closer to the heat and solar effects than here on earth. This in itself should accumulate much
data on the efficiency of solar panels which would pay for the trip many times over year after year of use here on earth.
Posted by rjangelino@...
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
I could see technology from a mission like this finding its way to
energy saving products for the home, etc.
Posted by bryancox24@...
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
2012... the prospective launch date is 2018, so obviously not.
using solar energy to cool? solar panels...most stuff melts before 2600 degrees. Any cooling system has to dump the heat somewhere. For the most part, the design will probably be built of materials that will withstand the heat, there would probably be some cooling needed somewhere, but the options are an external heat sink which will be at least 2600 degrees, or using a liquid or solid that would be boiled off to cool, but that would contaminate the tests.
Posted by kevinrs1
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
@clh: Good point. I, for one, was completely against the bailout of the a-holes in Wall Street that created this mess in the first place. NASA sure isn't spending nearly as much as the government is to keep our troops in Iraq for the "war on terror" aka "effort to exert U.S. influence over where the oil in Iraq will go."

I'd rather spend my tax dollars on a space probe going toward the sun than to wipe the bungholes of the people who decided that a war in a foreign land was better than renewable energy reform. Perhaps we could also spend $1 billion on community centers that feature a weekly jello wrestling show? At least it would be entertaining!
Posted by p_rikka@...
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
Theey're going to destroy a billion dollar spacecraft to see how hot the sun is, that is increible. BUT it is typical ffor NASA. So far they have a 50% failure rate.
Posted by RobertMoore12@...
9th Sep 2010
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@ "SmartAndWorldly"
Your username is hilariously ironic, as those who actually are smart and worldly need not resort to name calling and condescension simply because they disagree. Perhaps you should switch to "AngryandJudgmental".

collinlv's point does have some merit... how many hungry mouths could be fed with NASA's budget, no matter where the funds come from? Do any of you really think that flying to the sun should be a priority right now? Would it kill us to put some of these expensive missions on hold for a few years, until we're back on our feet?

This is akin to a starving family going out and buying a Mercedes... let's handle the basics first, then move on to luxuries.
Posted by ddferrari
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
@ dderrari
The US government is spending way more than enough money
on feeding hungry mouths. The taxpayers now support
themselves, their family, and a few people they don't know. These
people they don't know get supported because they have made a
conscious choice not support themselves and take everything
everybody else works for. Hmmm... Paying people not to work or
doing basic science to stay relevant in the world? That is a really
tough question.
Posted by Patrick Aupperle
9th Sep 2010
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Protection
Just make sure that the astronauts aboard are all using SPF100,000...
Posted by FiOS-Dave
9th Sep 2010
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...venturing eight times farther than any previous spacecraft.
Just how do you figure that?

Last time I looked, the Sun is under 100 million miles away at all times, and yet "...Voyager 1, at 8.7 billion miles from the Sun, has at last entered the heliosheath." in 2005.


under the OLD math, that's over 87 times further trip.
Posted by wizoddg
9th Sep 2010
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omg!
They're not going have a person on there, are they?
Posted by pgit
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
Are they going to go at night?
Posted by velella1@...
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
Give Bolden a chance to take that trip. We know that one human is worth ten thousand robots.
Posted by Josephus Hap
9th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
This is really a high tech mission. I am sure it will unravel the mysteries around the outer region of sun. I can't wait for 8 more years happy

1 billion dollar for 8 year mission is a small amount considering the task is not a trifle task. It will get us to have a better understanding of our source "The Sun" and the solar system in general.

Muruganantham Raju
Posted by muru_apr@...
10th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
Like global warming experts, I see so many space experts. Not.

@ddferrari

You have to be kidding. Space exploration is not a luxury, it's a necessity.
The environment we live under doesn't stop at the top layers of the
atmosphere, it extends well into space. We are susceptible to space weather,
as in solar storms that are emitted by the Sun. These storms can make your
electricity go out, disrupt your telecommunication satellites and GPS, and
other things that you mistakingly take for granted. Spending money on Sun
research adds to our persistently growing volume of knowledge, and the
possibility of one day predicting when these storms will be headed our way.
The more we know the better we can defend against it. We already have
satellites parked in a gravitationally neutral spot in space that study the Sun in
ways other generations only dreamt of.

We should thank NASA and science for this, and especially to those who
thought that spending the money was worth it. There was a solar storm in
1859 that was reported to set telegraph wires and paper on fire, it was that
intense. It can happen again, at any time. It wasn't much of a problem back in
the middle 1800's as people lived a simpler electronic-free life. Nowadays,
with all of our dependence on electronics of all kinds and its close integration
with our daily lives (think your computer hard drives, for example), a massive
solar storm headed in our direction could cost a tremendous amount more
(tens of billions to trillions) in infrastructure damage and societal/economic
setbacks. These Sun/space probes are much needed investments to learn
more about our complex Sun, and to our stability as a functioning society,
and by no means should be considered a luxury that we have an option to put
off for a stormy day.

Get with the space program.
Posted by Chiatzu
10th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
@clh201 its probably idiots like you who would say that we dont really need air or water to survive. It is discoverys and research like this that has gotten us this far technologically speaking. If it wherent for the discoverys made by nasa we'd be about 50 years behind the rest of the world from a technical stand point.
Posted by darkling282
10th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
aplologies my last post was directed at collinlv apologies to clh201 by the way your corecction was correct.
Posted by darkling282
10th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
@ddferrari are you really so stupid as to not realise that the technologies we will get from this will save more lives than not doing it will cost us. The reality is that not only will this mission prove beneficial but there are alot of facts pointing to it being necissary.
Posted by darkling282
10th Sep 2010
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@ darkling282
Before you call someone stupid, you should make sure there aren't any typos or run-on sentences in your post:
It's realize and necessary, not realise and necisarry.

I'm sure that all the starving children in America will be instantly sated once the data comes back from this mission. Uh-huh.

@Chiatzu I am with the space program and I love science and astronomy as much as the next person- I'll reconsider my views on the necessity of these missions.
Posted by ddferrari
10th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
How is NASA going to do this if the U.S. government is shutting down the space program?
Posted by tandablackford
11th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
I would rather NASA send 1bn dollars, to study the effects of the sun on the earth. Than waste money to send space vehicles. To study dead planets like mars.
Posted by blackjack861@...
12th Sep 2010
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RE: NASA plans to fly a spacecraft directly into the sun
If you are not in the US, "realise" is spelt with an "s".
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/realise%20

I agree that "necessary", isn't spelt "necisarry".

Perhaps all the people who complain about scientific research should have their electronic gadgets taken away from them.
That way they couldn't log onto sites like this and post comments.

The probe might discover nothing useful, or it might find something fantastic.
Posted by lehnerus2000
28th Sep 2010
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