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With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power

By | May 4, 2010, 3:13 AM PDT

Muskegon, Mich.-based WindTronics is preparing to roll out its clever Honeywell Wind Turbine, which can begin generating power in wind speeds as low as two miles per hour.

The turbine is fascinating because it’s really a generator. Instead of waiting for wind to push strong enough to get the blades of a traditional turbine going from the middle, the gearless Honeywell turbine creates power at its blade tips.

Here’s how it works: A system of magnets and stators around its outer ring captures power at the tips of the blades, where the speed is the greatest. The turbine is freewheeling and can turn to follow the wind. As it spins, power is transferred to a “Smart Box,” which uses two deep cycle batteries to store and buffer the energy, as well as regulate it as it enters the electrical panel.

Thanks to its design, there’s a considerable lack of mechanical resistance compared to a traditional turbine. Better still, it’s much quieter thanks to very little vibration.

But perhaps best of all, that design allows the turbine to generate energy with winds as low as two miles per hour (or approx. 3 kilometers per hour). That’s much lower than a traditional turbine, which requires a minimum speed of 7.5 mph, or approx. 12 kph.

WindTronics says the turbine is able to produce 2,752 kWh per year in Class 4 winds at 33 ft., or about the height of a four-story office building.

According to the company, that kind of energy is worth roughly 20 percent of an average household’s annual electricity needs.

(According to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Class 4 winds are found in exposed coastal areas in the Northeast from Maine to New Jersey and in the Northwest southward to northern California, as well as the area around the Great Lakes.)

The turbine itself measures 6 feet in diameter and weighs 170 lbs. It’s made to be installed on a pole on your roof, or on a commercial building (including in arrays), and pretty much anywhere you get regular gusts of wind — including urban areas.

A few more specs about the turbine:

  • Made of polycarbonate, aluminum and steel
  • Wildlife distinguishable (birds can see and avoid it)
  • Power directly to electrical panel or Grid Tie to utility
  • Installation: rooftop (requires 2 ft. clearance), side mount, platform mount, pole mount
  • Fewer moving parts than traditional turbines means less maintenance
  • Lowest kWh installed turbine on the market in size and class
  • Federal and state tax rebates will cover 30 to 80 percent of consumer’s cost
  • Five-year warranty; designed to last 20 years

I was able to get an up-close look at the turbine on Friday at the Trump SoHo hotel in New York City, and I can attest that it looks much like a high-tech bicycle wheel, spokes and all. (OK, maybe not the neodymium magnets.)

The question, of course, is whether a turbine of this size can generate enough money to justify its cost. Renewable energy expert Paul Gipe has written extensively about the hype surrounding urban wind turbines, and his take is that if you want real wind power in the city, you need to go “big” — as in pony up for a tall, co-owned “big wind” turbine.

Ace Hardware will be the first retailer to sell the Honeywell turbine, which will retail for $6,495 and be available in August. (The price includes the turbine’s “Smart Box” energy management system that connects and regulates electricity.)

It will also be available through Honeywell, utilities, distributors, contractors and other retailers.

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Costs $6,495; earns back $6,605--GOOD ENOUGH?
Based on an average cost of residential electricity of 12?/kWh in the U.S. in April 2009, 2752 kWh/year generated by the turbine, and a full 20 year lifespan, this turbine hardly pays for itself. Granted, a government subsidy would help. And with mass production the price should eventually come down. AND, if the cost of electricity rises (which it probably will), then the value of the "free" energy increases. Still, it's a tough decision if you don't have $6500 to gamble with.
Posted by kellycarter
4th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
Didn't "Smoky" do this design in the 70s?
as.. reported by Popular Science magazine...
Posted by jrlambert
4th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
oops... it was Tom Chalk that did the bicycle wheel turbine in the 70s....
I think someone else had already put the generator in the "rim".
Posted by jrlambert
4th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
You need to generate 50,000 kw for this turbine to pay for itself,
based on .12$ per kW. Generating 2752 kW per year, it will take
18 years for this to pay for itself, without any government
incentives or rebates.

$6500 cost of machine / 0.12$ kW = 50,000 kw/$
50,000 kW / 2752kW per year = 18 years
Posted by zachary2001
5th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
Here in CT, we pay at least $0.21 / kwh, and I'm hoping our Clean Energy Fund will start subsidizing wind power.
Posted by tjamitch
5th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
I wonder what the local HOA will say about this on my roof!
Posted by lasater9@...
5th May 2010
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What on earth makes it so expensive?
I'm pretty sure I could build one from scrap parts for half the price.
Yes, I think I'll have a go at it.
Posted by Dukhalion
5th May 2010
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Electric Payback.
Here in my area we pay 6.5 cents per KWH, thus it would take you 36 years to pay off a generator, that only last 20.

And that is not including cost of financing.... or cost ... or loss of interests from investments.
Posted by SteveSchemenauer
6th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
Mother nature is fond of throwing showstoppers at us, and I'm afraid windmills are no exception. The latest design might not pose the threat to birds that previous windmills posed, but if we build enough windmills to really make a dent in demand for fossil fuels and uranium, mother nature might think of another showstopper to throw at us. Such as, slowing down the rotation of the Earth.
Posted by AlexKovnat
6th May 2010
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Class 4?
Any legitimate producer of turbines will quote you the numbers for the more common class 3 winds (if you live on a hill top or valley channel), and even then they aren't sustained in most places. They claim class 4 represents most of North America...
http://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/map_wind_national_lo-res.jpg
Maybe the mean including the lakes over the Northern territories and the winds of the Atlantic coasts..
http://www.windatlas.ca/en/maps.php?field=EU&height=50&season=ANU

But even better, they're advertising power production at 2 MPH... okay, let's see the class 1 and 2 wind stats? How long will it take to pay that back?

---Edit---
Looking through they're own documentation, I have (sort of) an answer! At 2 MPH, the turbine produces about 10 Watts. This is better than most which would be a flat out zero, but can't even light a CFL. That power takes about 3.5 MPH. The mode average of their Class 4 test location was 10 MPH, which produces 140W.

Using a range between 7 and 15 MPH (50% of the test time) reliable energy totaled an estimated mean average of 65 kWh / month. There were much higher numbers at times... the most energy was actually produced in the 5% of the time the generator stood at 20 MPH winds, not included in the above calculation because I don't feel I can rely on that 5% always regularly occurring. I might feel better if I saw a chart that included the frequency of winds, not just the time over a year. Basically what is meant by reliable, I'm guessing through logic that 65 kWh/mo is the low end of production in a class 4 location.

Since my average monthly usage is closer to 500 kWh, and I'm in a class 1 locale according to the above map, this is not a justifiable investment for me.

--- End Edit ---

I realize it's about 1/3rd the cost of most professional home installations, but other designs last longer, produce more power in a Class 3 environment, and in some cases, may just be over all quieter, more efficient, and aesthetic (r.e. Helix Wind). Sure, they only produce usable power at 7+ MPH, but my bicycle generator produces power at 2MPH too, but it's not very useful. happy

Anyone who mounts a wind generator to their roof learns very quickly there is no such thing as silent rotation. Attic timbers have an interesting way of amplifying and transferring even the smallest sounds through the whole house.The only power generation that should be on your roof is solar.

What about the cost of a battery plant? Wind generation is too unstable to hook up directly to your power grid, you need something to buffer those gusts. The kit mentions a battery management system but not the batteries themselves. That can be an extra $2K right there. Research people. This might be good on an RV or boat, but I think most homes are going to want something bigger to make the costs recovery viable.

As Dukhalion said, you can build your own (lower power) wind generator too for much less, the plans are all over the web. This is real nice option if you have a buddy who owns a junk yard. happy
Posted by D-cat
8th May 2010
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Vertical Turbine
The vertical design will compete with the radial type.
Posted by donnydo77@...
27th May 2010
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RE: With gearless Honeywell turbine, WindTronics ushers in urban wind power
Can someone calculate or tell me how to calculate how many kWh per year this turbine would generate if a 10 mph wind speed was sustain over that same time period? I would like to also figure out RPM aswell?
Posted by b04t55
2nd Dec 2010
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Honeywell Wind Turbine.
Every one seems to think in terms of how long will it take for a device to pay for itself in energy savings. That is a VERY short sided view revealing that most of the respondents are probably under 55. For those of us 65 and older, with 0-5 years before retirement, we are at our max for earning potential and in a position to pay possibly cash for devices whick are credible and under $10K. And our primary, or at least my primary concern is monthly energy cost compared to my retirement monthly income. A much different concern. Thanks for all the computations, but I think I will install the Honeywell unit and at the end of a year evaluate whether it is worthwhile purchasing another. By the way, as you might intuit, I plan to feed mine back into the grid! Has everybody been following what is hapening in Europe? Seems there is a move to place wind, solar and geothermal energy genrators for everybody since each is differentially preferntial in the vast latitudinal differences there. I heard, I think, on PBR that nearly 30% of Germany is now "off the grid".
Posted by brucea46
29th Nov 2011
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Wind Option
I think this turbine has a big future. I liked its design and the idea and I also posted something about it on my blog (promoting wind power and wind turbines): http://windoption.com/2012/03/honeywell-gearless-wind-turbine/
Posted by windoption
3rd Mar 2012
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