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Debating smart growth: Is urban or suburban living better?

By | February 22, 2010, 11:57 AM PST

The debate over smart growth has become political: is the “Dickensian gloom” of a high-density urban community better or worse than the sprawl of a suburban community?

In a pair of point-counterpoint-styled posts on Planetizen, one urban planner and one environmental consultant go head-to-head to debate whether urban or suburban living is more efficient and environmentally-friendly.

In the pro-suburbs corner is Tony Recsei, an Australian environmental consultant and “Save Our Suburbs” president.

In the pro-cities corner is Michael Dudley, planning librarian and researcher for the Institute of Urban Studies at the University of Winnipeg.

Recsei argues:

  • Greenhouse gas emissions of those living in high-density areas are greater than for those living in low-density areas.
  • Transportation emissions are responsible for only a small fraction of household emissions.
  • Why? Lower occupancy rates in high-rises compared to single-residential homes, as well as the use of elevators, clothes dryers, air-conditioners and common lighted areas.
  • There is greater energy per resident required to construct a high-rise.
  • Transportation: For many journeys, public transport is unsuitable or even forbidden (bulky goods, pets, overall inconvenience).
  • Length of commute in terms of time does not decrease as density increases
  • In a study, rates for psychosis in Sweden were 70 percent greater in denser areas.
  • Social activities of people in the center of spacious small towns is nearly twice that in dense large cities.

Recsei ends with this note: “Smart Growth policies forced into unwilling communities do not reduce greenhouse gas emissions, do not facilitate travel, do not improve health, do not increase housing choice and do not reduce overall costs.”

Dudley, a proponent of smart growth, was taken aback by this argument.

Dudley argues:

  • Recsei made selective use of the data and misrepresented studies on greenhouse gases, transportation, health, infrastructure and the cost of housing.
  • Melbourne (population: 4 million) is too sprawling to be considered a proper example of urban public transit. New York City would be better.
  • Everyone in urban areas stands to gain from well-funded and well-run transit services, even if they don’t patronize them.
  • According to a study, the American economy loses over $63 billion in productivity due to congestion.
  • Public transit and active transportation investments are providing more choices without taking people’s freedom to drive cars away.
  • The authors of the Sweden study were careful not to claim that urban density itself was to blame for high rates of psychosis. A lack of social support or socio-economic conditions were suggested as reasons.
  • Smart growth may correlate with increased demand for urban living and thus higher prices, but smart growth does not actually cause housing unaffordability, and merely works to reduce it.

Dudley ends with this: “Opponents of Smart Growth too often fall back on hyperbole and disingenuous rhetoric.”

What do you think? Is urban or suburban living a smarter solution?

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RE: Debating smart growth: Is urban or suburban living better?
If Urban living is "defined as Downtown" why should I live downtown, when I don't work there? I rarely go downtown for anything, except for an occasional sporting event, concert, or something similar that is being held downtown. The only shopping there is at a few boutique shops, lots of restaurants, no grocery stores, no department stores. When WalMart or Target take a highrise and put one of their superstores within, then you might have something worth considering. The other item to think about is in the suburban areas the homes have enough space for a small garden, or if you were fortunate enough to afford a larger plot of land, then you can have a bigger garden, fruit trees, nut trees, etc, that will help cut back on everyones favorite problem: "greenhouse gases." Public transportation in many cities does not go where one needs to go (beginning or ending), and therefore doe not get used. (at least by me and my family) We live within the city limits, but in a suburban area of the city Ten miles or so from the city center.
Some of these buildings would be helpful by putting gardens on the flat foof, to control heating and cooling costs, provide for more greenery, garden plots. See Rebecca Koll's http://www.rebeccakolls.com/ work in Minneapolis, for examples.
Posted by dhays
23rd Feb 2010
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RE: Debating smart growth: Is urban or suburban living better?
The future is suburban living, if we want life quality. Many jobs are
suitable for remote commuting nowadays, and for those that can't, they
will also be benefited once we take those drivers who can from the
highways. We may see Internet at 100 Mpbs in a near future, and that
will make even easier to justify telecommuting. Giving the right
tools, people will be able to even see each other through smart
applications so easing up the sense of physical presence some officers
like to feel about their employes.
Agglomerating millions in cubicles like in New York certainly is not
the way to go, at least not if we have choices.
Posted by FuzzyIce
23rd Feb 2010
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Try suburban living in Texas
The DFW metroplex is approximately 50 miles north to south and 80 miles east to west, housing about as many people as NY city. Its size and population are on schedule to double in a generation.

It is not cost effective to implement a sufficiently robust method of public transport that people would abandon their cars. The distances are too great, the cost to purchase and implement the transport delivery system (rail, road, tunnel, etc.) is prohibitive.

No doubt petty politicians, with small minds and even smaller imaginations, will still attempt to force a NY style transportation system on DFW and other sprawling suburbs. And in the process they will make a royal mess of things.
Posted by LarryPTL
23rd Feb 2010
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RE: Debating smart growth: Is urban or suburban living better?
Has anyone actually looked at Vancouver?

DHays wrote, "When WalMart or Target take a highrise and put one of their superstores within, then you might have something worth considering."

The downtown Vancouver Costco is built underneath three condo towers and an urban park. The Home Depot has townhouse units on top of it. Futureshop, HomeSense, IGA: they are all built within hotels, offices, and condos.

My downtown office is across the street from a park, bordered by a Starbucks, a gym, and three more towers. Only 30% of our employees drive. Most don't even have cars.

See the "Vancouverism" wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouverism

"With a large residential population living in the city centre, no expressways connecting the core to the suburbs, and significant reliance on mass public transit, Vancouver is somewhat unique among large North American cities. In part, these reasons contribute to the fact that it is consistently ranked among the most livable cities in the world."
Posted by gmantel
23rd Feb 2010
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To each his own, but for me, urban is better
I live in East Central Dallas. The reason DFW doesn't have effective pubtrans is the city is not dense enough to get pubtrans start and end points close enough to where people want to go for timely commuting. I'd love to ride the bus to work, but instead of a 30 minute drive that costs about $1.5 in gas, it would be a 1.5 hr commute replete with 2 bus transfers, 40 minutes of waiting time, and $2 in bus fare.

If we could double the population without increasing the footprint at all, and hopefully concentrating population in specific areas like the downtowns, and around popular entertainment districts, rather than moderately increasing the surburban density, pubtrans could work for many more people.

Painting roofs white here, or putting gardens on flat roofs is a great idea. I don't think surburban gardens are practical otherwise. I have a garden, it is a very time and resource intensive hobby that requires lots of water and weeding, for very limited return. To get even moderate production I also have to substantially cut back my trees that would otherwise provide comfortable shade to my backyard and home, thereby increasing air conditioning costs.
Posted by colinnwn
23rd Feb 2010
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RE: Debating smart growth: Is urban or suburban living better?
Urban sprawl reduces arable land already dwindling at an alarming rate world wide, Urban sprawl also reduces availability of forested areas that soak up CO2 emissions created by human habitation. Higher density is the answer,
Posted by nick@...
23rd Feb 2010
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RE: Debating smart growth: Is urban or suburban living better?
What's smart is letting people live where they want to live. People who want to live in cities should be able to do so; people who want to live like humans were designed to live, surrounded by nature and open spaces, should be able to do so. There's not enough good science to argue this either way. It's a matter of choice.
Posted by gsackett
23rd Feb 2010
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If urban planners want the suburbanites to come back to the city...
...they need to get politicians to make "urban" living tolerable again.
Instead, the political class pays heed only to special interest groups
with their own particular agendas, which literally chase people away
from cities.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
23rd Feb 2010
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