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Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record

By | December 8, 2010, 9:53 AM PST

Another day, another accolade for China’s high-speed rail system.

The Chinese CRH308A “Harmony” bullet train broke 302 miles per hour — 486.1 km/h, or the speed of a Bombardier Learjet 40XR cruising at low speed — on a run on a pilot segment between Zaozhuang to Bengbu on the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway, according to a Xinhua report on Friday.

The translation’s a little muddy, but the 1,318 km line — that’s almost 820 miles — promises to reduce the travel time from Beijing to Shangai from 10 hours to four or five hours.

(While that’s wonderful, consider that it’s a tiny minority of China’s total rail network, and that while speed records are a nice publicity coup, the real challenge is elevating the service for its not-so-fast regional trains.)

The high-speed line is scheduled to open “before the end of 2011,” according to the (roughly translated) report.

To date, China has laid some 4,680 miles of high-speed track, with aims to built out its entire rail network to 74,565 miles of track by 2020, 9,941 miles of which would be high-speed.

The goal: serve 90 percent of China’s population by train, somehow.

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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
With American jobs and interest payments.
Posted by timekeeper21
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
So wait, the Chinese could do it, but not the US? Darn centralized
governments, all they can do is those big jobs.
Posted by Vahidm
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
So that's where all our steel is going.
Posted by fshwear
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
"Our" steel? You're not writing from the USA, I'm guessing.
Posted by dmm99
8th Dec 2010
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750 miles in 5 hours.
With an average speed of 150 mph this is a nice train.

The link above has the US waiting until 2040 to see those speeds betweek New York and Washington DC.

I thought the billion dollar Acela was supposed capable of 150 mph? Why does it run at 80?
Posted by Hates Idiots
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
I find it worth reflecting on this entry about Chinese high speed trains and the reference to California high speed train also in todays list of articles (and the authors of both entries refer to China as being back level)
Apparantly
- China has laid 4680 miles of high speed track - California has APPROVED but not yet laid 65 miles - ratio 89-to-1
- China - California - area ratio 23-to-1
- China - California - population 34-to-1
To my knowledge California has no "high speed tracks" even remotely reaching the Chinese velocity

So no matter how you compare China is far ahead of California when it comes to high speed trains (by a factor of 3 or 4).

Fascinating !
(Not sure what to conclude, though - except that China is catching up quickly)
Posted by BoEbro
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Catch up? By what measure can you not say they have passed us up and left us well back in the dust?
Posted by 66_tbird
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Not bad for a train designed and built by Germans!
Posted by tech_ed@...
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
I think you'll find the train designed and built by germans is the maglev (Invented by the British)
Posted by siobhanellis@...
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Did they obtain the technology from another country/company or develop it themselves?

They are quite adept at "borrowing" technology from others. The Russians are kicking themselves for selling the production plans to China for its latest fighters. Now the Chinese build their own, and compete with Russia selling export copies.

China would like to buy 2 (yes, 2) copies of the latest airplane design from Russia so they can reverse engineer it, and build their own version.

Why spend the time and money to develop your own technology when it is so much easier and cheaper to steal from others?
Posted by JohnVoda
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
OK - so how many of you know where the design of the locomotive was inspired? Check out the San Diego Zoo's biomimicry page for more information! Mr. Syntropic...
Posted by Syntropic
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Impressive testing; but how fast will it be allowed to run once it's in full service? And I agree that our records are terrible compared to theirs, but ... is a 300 mph train really of any use? They would only be good for non-stop long trips; most traiin trips I've been on have been stop & go though they did travel about 70 mph on the long runs where the terrain was level. It really had to slow for curves and hills.
Just idle thinking, that's all. I wonder how the costs will compare to flying? And the size of the trainyards to an airport?
Posted by twaynesdomain
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
What really was broken ?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1mhza_montage-record-du-tgv-
a-574-8-km-h_tech
Posted by leon.j@...
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Firstly, as per the comment from Leon, the Frence TGV has broken the record at 574.8Km/h so what is this article referring to? Second, the TGV in France and the ICE is Germany has many services which consistently run at between 200 and 400Km/h for many years. The Eurostar between London and Paris runs at 300Km/h. The U.S. is so far behind all these countries (and not just in train technology) its laughable.
Posted by jerry.bloom@...
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
It would be fantastic, if China was as good in respecting human rights, as it is, in making strives in technology.
Posted by blackjack861@...
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
1,318 km in just five hours. That's fabulous.
Will it be harmful to the health of passenger?

Regards,
Rajesh
http://www.unichost.com
Posted by Rajesh.M
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
The U.S. is more than capable of building high speed rail systems.
Success can only be assured if dedicated high speed rail tracks are built without political and special interest group interference.
If the Wright Brothers persisted on thinking that something can't be done, they would continue building bicycles.
Posted by da philster
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
I have traveled on these European trains and believe me you do not feel a thing.

The rate at which it was passing the cars on autobahns close to the tracks it seemed like they were standing still and I was passing them at something like 85 mph - pre 1973 state on US highways. Then on the return journey I got a ride with a friend and onlythen realized that the traffic on the autobahn was moving at close to 120 mph.

Now the numbers I am talking about are normat traffic speeds.

BTW it is not likely that these super-speed trains are about to arrive in the US. Not by a long shot. This would wean the commuters away from the airplanes to the detriment of oil companies' profits !!!!
Posted by pmshah@...
8th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Technical question: does it use an overhead catenary or does it get
power from the rails? the French were limited by how tight they
could pull the catenary - the train has to travel slower than the
speed of a standing wave.
Posted by ken.ames@...
8th Dec 2010
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Questions must be asked....
Has the Chinese government been up to its normal tricks to make
this line?
Displacing villages, disrupting established ways of life for these
vanity projects?
Spending billions on grabbing headlines with projects which will
benefit a tiny fragment of their population while a huge number
live in poverty?
Still, though, the great news is the emergence of another
engineering superpower, contributing to the technical
advancement
And hell, it's a real cool piece of tech.
Posted by steve_jonesuk@...
9th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
Why is the GOP opposed to high speed rail? Maybe the name sais it all, Grand Oil Party!
Posted by rudy2d
9th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
It is incredible how far these people have come since the days of the Cultural Revolution not all that long ago. I can remember an article in the Geographic featuring Chinese Steam Locomotives!
Posted by EVsRoll
9th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
It proves that Design and Technology play such a small part in
actual implementation of project of this scale. Sad to say. A lot of
Politics, Money, Social or Un-social issues etc. are needed to get
the work done. The Chinese has the advantage of dictating such
project onto the landscape, for better or worst while the west
needs to a lot more effort, democratic issues and otherwise.
Innovative and expensive buildings have been built in Beijing and
Shanghai but the architects are mostly foreign. In the end, its not
where they come from but where they are being implemented,
again, for better or worst. Sometime you just have to say, "just do
it" [Nike].
Posted by jyanzikong
9th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
I don't know whether india will become superpower (alteast
developed nation) in 2020, but china will do.

Am i wrong anywhere?
Posted by praveenm
10th Dec 2010
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RE: Chinese bullet train breaks 302 mph; breaks speed record
The USA would be much better off if the government was run by
someone playing Civilization 5... where you don't care about the
money, only about the level of progress, completely ignoring
"elected officials" reign and worrying more about "where will my
country be in the next 500 years?" than "What shall I have for
breakfast?" which is the way th country is run today.

The US needs to go to 10 year presidential terms (limit 3) and 7
year congress terms (limit 3-5), move all of it's military back to US
soil and use them to police the USA, protect our borders instead
of someone else's and build shelters for the homeless of our
country, not to rebuild cities in another nation. Stop giving money
to the countries that the US occupied during war times over the
last 75 years and spend that money building in our own
homeland.

Instead of joining wars (or starting them) in other countries, the
US should work on a contract basis for the UN, requiring payment
for our efforts, if we even help out. The US ALWAYS provides
more of it's children in these so called "UN Sanctioned" wars than
anyone else. If the world wants our help, let them pay us for it,
not us pay them after we leave.

You want to catch someone like Bin Laden, all you have to do is
contact the government of the country he was last reported in
and tell them in 24 hours you will drop a significant number of
bombs on that person's "home town" if he is not turned in, and
again in another 12 hours on another city he has been "seen in"
until they find him and turn him over to us. (in Bin laden's case,
start with a city, then start hitting the mount ranges where known
caves or bases might be located). They might laugh at you for
23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds. After that, you have their
attention and everyone in the country will do what ever it takes to
turn that person in to the authorities. you want to see how far
loyalty to a terrorist goes? start nuking cities, towns, and villages
that are associated with them, I'll bet that terrorists own family will
turn him in.

If this had been the policy of the USA in the 80's we would not be
in the situation we have been in for the last 9 years, it just would
not have happened, who would try to blow up the world trade
center towers if they knew their entire home city would get
incinerated as a response?


If you go around letting people sodomize you, then people will line
up to get their turn, if you go around sodomizing people, then
they will keep out of your way. Remember Mel, the cook from
Alice (US TV) "The best defense is a good offense"
Posted by aiellenon
14th Dec 2010
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