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Audi’s e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)

By | September 15, 2009, 4:53 AM PDT

Audi unveiled its e-tron electric sports car with four motors, two on each axle, for a 0-to-60 mph time of 4.8 seconds or so.

According to Audi, the automaker set out to develop a two seater that used electric power in mind throughout the vehicle from the heat plump to the drive system to the networking. Audi says:

The design makes it clear that the e-tron belongs in the major leagues of sports cars, and the package takes into account the specific realities of an electric vehicle. The battery is directly behind the passenger cabin for an optimal center of gravity and axle load distribution.

Audi acknowledges that “there is still a lot of work to do before electric cars are ready for volume production.” The biggest hurdle is an integrated energy and storage system. Audi says it’s looking at the possibilities.

For electric cars to really become the norm they will have to provide performance on par with cars today. Worries about range will have to fade. And ideally, electric cars will have a few eye-opening perks—besides gas savings—to entice folks that love to just drive.

In the meantime, it’s worth considering some of Audi’s moves. The most interesting item may be the e-tron’s heat pump—a first for a car. Audi describes the heat pump this way:

Unlike a combustion engine, the electric drive system may not produce enough waste heat under all operating conditions to effectively heat the interior. Other electric vehicles are equipped with electric supplemental heaters, which consume a relatively large amount of energy. The heat pump used by Audi – and commonly used in buildings – is a highly efficient machine that uses mechanical work to provide heat with a minimum input of energy.

A high-efficiency climate control system is used to cool the interior. It works together with the thermal management system to also control the temperature of the high-voltage battery. The battery, the power electronics and the electric motors must be kept at their respective ideal operating temperatures to achieve optimal performance and range.

As soon as the vehicle is connected to a charging station the vehicle is preconditioned as appropriate by the thermal management and other associated systems.

The drive system is heated if temperatures are cool, and cooled if hot. This preconditioning can also be extended to the interior, if necessary, so that the passengers can step into a cabin that has been heated or cooled as appropriate for their comfort.

Also see: A hydrogen car is not a hydrogen economy

Among Audi’s key e-tron points:

  • Lightweight construction is top priority to reduce road resistance.
  • The automaker focused on packaging the electronic drive system so it’s integrated with the battery. Audi says putting the battery in fron tof the rear axle ensures load distribution without compromising design and interior space.
  • The battery system is water cooled.
  • A “needs-based” energy management system controls all functions of the car.
  • A thermal management system accounts for the interior as well as battery and drive system.
  • Produce vehicle safety on par with today’s production materials.
  • Provide networked information to create an optimized driving strategy. This system will account for traffic light cycle times and traffic flow.

Audi provides a bevy of details in its statement, but the pictures tell the story better.


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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
electricity is the future....... Audi is making the business
Posted by ang@...
15th Sep 2009
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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
good for audi, but after a mile or so does it then go form 60 to zero when the battery runs out. electric cars might do well in cities in the east where travel distances are much smaller than in the west where a typical trip to the nearest grocery store might be 30 plus miles.the west is a 'BIG COUNTRY" (cue the music from the movie)and this should be considered when one is writing about these wonderful electric autos. i really do like the idea but until a battery that has a range of a couple of hundred miles comes along, it will be a nick-nack.
Posted by stilt21
15th Sep 2009
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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
The Tesla Model S 4-door sedan offers three range options: Tesla claims the baseline model will come with a battery pack capable of 160 miles, with a 230-mile version and a 300-mile version as options. I know that the Tesla is expensive, but this is just the beginning of the electric car market, so prices should trend downward as production rises and competition increases.

Read more: http://paultan.org/2009/03/28/tesla-model-s-electric-car/#ixzz0RCVbEcJP
Posted by hdkinney@...
15th Sep 2009
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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
Americans should be the first people to endorse the idea that there is no "one size fits all" answer to any problem. There will always be farmers and ranchers who require heavier, long legged vehicles.
So, convert the old 3/4 ton to cng or propane, or pit a 20 gal propane tank into the Lincoln towne car and let the "east" plug into a wall.
imho the real stumbling block is audi, et al pushing for 0-60, etc at levels undreamed of 30 years ago, rather than notice that when "car culture" actually did rule America most people were content with getting someplace. factoid: the corvair corsa?top speed of 115 mph (with turbocharger) with a zero-to-sixty time of about 10.8.
Posted by gabrielbear@...
15th Sep 2009
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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
Audi... getting there.. and they obviously know where the remaining work has to be done....keep at it.
Maybe the Lithium-air battery?.. something else? will address this.

The heat pump is a big deal.. addressing issues that present prototypes and production cars have not done a very good job with.

in the mean time....
I am going to get a bit nit picking about Larry's writing.
Please Larry , write as though you have some tech experience.
2 motors for each axle? really?
Someone expects me to believe this car has only two axles?
and they would mount two motors to each?
or
2 motors on each axle side in the rear?

Granted.. .Audi did a poor job of describing this also. (beginning of their presentation).
but at least they stated axles (plural) in front and back. (meaning 4 total)
and referenced their "torque vectoring" via each of the motors, further clarifying the configuration.
Just saying......clarify - don't further compound their poor phrasing.
Posted by jrlambert
15th Sep 2009
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Audi's e-tron concept car ? ? ? ? ?
Looks like this design was lifted from one of the coroflot portfolios, some how I doubt he got credit for it, too many coincidences.

http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_set.asp?keywords=sergio+toro&c=1&set_id=28635&individual_id=103317
Posted by DieterAckerman
15th Sep 2009
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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
I doubt that this car has even one axle. I would guess it has four wheel independent suspension by how low it is. They may have four motors, one for each spindle or one for each wheel.
Posted by nimrod666
15th Sep 2009
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RE: Audi's e-tron concept car: Four motors, all electric (and a heat pump)
@Dieter - well since the design and Name of the concept is similar either they worked with him on it or there will be a lawsuit.

Your Point?
Posted by zclayton3
16th Sep 2009
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Heat Pumps
A Geothermal Heat Pumps or ground source heat pump (GSHP) is a central heating and/or cooling system.Its now becoming a trend all over the world !
Posted by Geothermal Heat Pump
4th May 2010
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