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World’s first geoengineering field test soon to lift off

By | August 31, 2011, 9:54 PM PDT

As the climate warms, scientists will have to search for more drastic ways to prevent its negative effects. One possible method involves trying to create devices that mimic volcanoes, which naturally spew dust particles that reflect sunlight away from Earth.

It won’t be easy bouncing the sun’s hot rays away from our little planet, but a big balloon — think stadium-sized — could help lead the way.

A team of British researchers is starting to test their design for a gargantuan balloon lofted 12-and-a-half miles into the air, tethered to an equally long hose, that would pump sun-reflecting dust particles into the Earth’s stratosphere.

At least, that’s the theory for what is the world’s first major experiment in “geoengineering,” in which humans try to manipulate Earth’s natural systems on a large scale in order to prevent the negative impacts of climate change. In this case, the scientists are attempting to create a contraption that mimics volcanoes and discharges into the stratosphere sulphates and other dust particles (aka “aerosols” — which does not refer to chemicals in ozone-destroying spray cans but the types of sunlight-reflecting particles that volcanoes disgorge).

Before they put a whole stadium-sized balloon into the stratosphere, the British team will do a field test in the next few months. They will deploy a mini version of the balloon-and-hose device almost two-thirds of a mile into the air and have it pump out water, just to see if the device works.

Climate scientists and engineers have yet to gauge:

  • how practicable the balloon-and-hose setup is
  • whether it is possible to manage a balloon floating more than twice as high as the cruising altitude of commercial airliners
  • what substance and how much of it needs to be injected into the atmosphere to combat the effects of change, while preventing harm to the climate, ecosystems and human health
  • what the best locations are for such balloons

The Guardian reports,

Other leaders of the government-funded Stratospheric Particle Injection for Climate Engineering (Spice) project have investigated using missiles, planes, tall chimneys and other ways to send thousands of tonnes of particles into the air but have concluded that a simple balloon and hosepipe system is the cheapest.

via: The Guardian

photos: Lykaestria/Wikimedia; thumbnail: AngMoKio/Wikimedia

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Very cheap clean energy: LENR Ni-H exothermic reaction
There is a new clean energy technology that is 1/10th the cost of dirty coal.

Don???t believe me? Watch this video by a Nobel prize winner in physics: http://pesn.com/2011/06/23/9501856_Nobel_laureate_touts_E-Cat_cold_fusion/

Still don???t believe me? It convinced the Swedish Skeptics Society: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3144827.ece

LENR using nickel. Incredibly: Ni+H+KCO3(heated under pressure)=Cu+lots of heat.

Still don???t believe me? A major US corporation has bought the rights to sell the 1 megawatt Rossi E-Cat, and it will be announced late October in the US, with the unit hitting the market in November. How can any fossil fuel compete with such cheap energy (and clean to boot!).

By the way, here is a current survey of all the companies that are bringing LENR to commercialization: http://www.cleantechblog.com/2011/08/the-new-breed-of-energy-catalyzers-ready-for-commercialization.html
Posted by doberman8
31st Aug 2011
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Is it alchemy or a typo???
Let's see. If I remember my college chemistry, in your formula you start with Nickel, Hydrogen, Potassium, Carbon and Oxygen and end up with Copper?!?!? Is that a typo or is that alchemy? No amount of heat and pressure short of fusion or a supernova can transmute a metal (much to Newton's consternation!). I just don't think you can do that!!! Am I missing something?
Posted by omb00900@...
1st Sep 2011
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It is not alchemy or a typo
It is transmutation via fusion. The process is a nuclear reaction that results in new elements being created. Just how the sun converts hydrogen into helium, except this is roughly 10,000,000 Kelvins cooler.
If you were taught that this is impossible, then you were taught wrong. Read the articles. IT IS HAPPENING. Therefore whatever the dominant theory was when you were in school has been discredited. Time to reassess your understanding of chemistry / nuclear physics.
Posted by NoryCaw
1st Sep 2011
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You are correct, but times change
I really mean that it changes nickel to copper at less than millions of degrees (i.e. "cold" fusion as opposed to hot fusion). There is reliable evidence that this is taking place and it is unbelievable. By the way, I am a master at chess and a member of Mensa, so I am VERY reality oriented, and I am over 99% sure this is taking place. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS?? dobermanmacleod@gmail.com
Posted by doberman8
5th Sep 2011
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You are careful to avoid saying the damage done by sulfur in the article.
Why?

Is it because the sulfur compounds they intended to pump into the atmosphere are the same compounds that were blamed for acid rain?

If they are right than mans intervention in natural burning processes by filtering sulfur from the smoke caused global warming. Now we must pump man made sulfur compounds into the air to fix the global warming we caused.

But wont that bring back the acid rain?

OMG I am getting a migraine keeping track of mans meddling with the environment.

Can we just remove the sulfur filters on our power plants to put back the sulfur into the air? It would be virtually free to just turn off the filters and let the sulfur go do its thing.

But wait a minute; there is no money to be made in that option. I keep forgetting the whole global warming myth is about making money for the people who push the agenda. First it was scientists fighting over research funding then Al Gore and company jumped on the hype and made tons of money selling carbon credits, and now the fix is in.

The scam to create man made fixes gets a group of scientists testing funds. It is brilliant to get paid to fix the problem they convinced people existed.
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 1st Sep 2011
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Altitude makes the difference
The sulphates pumped out by volcanoes go very high in the atmosphere. It's only at the highest altitudes that sulphates reflect sunlight. It's believed they eventually fall to earth as acid raid.

The sulphates pumped out by coal plants don't go that high, but they are high enough to get taken up by clouds and fall to earth as acid rain. Unless they somehow produce more reflective clouds, they don't have a significant effect on reflecting sunlight.

If we are going to try stratospheric aerosols, we need to find something that's benign instead of sulphates.
Posted by zackers
1st Sep 2011
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Bottom line is, this idea will cause problems. Rutgers has studied it.
And they do not like it. "Geoengineering, however, will invariably have certain undesirable consequences." "20 potential side effects"

The mid latitudes will get hit the worst with the "side effects" no matter where on earth the stratospheric sulphates are deployed.

http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/aciddeposition7.pdf
Posted by Hates Idiots
1st Sep 2011
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The beauty of the "heads we're right - tails you're wrong" logic...
...the warmists employ is if this whole thing backfires, they can just blame it there being too much CO2, or that they just didn't do it big enough, etc. It's no different than what the Keynesians are doing in economics.

And you'd think that all the sulfur the Chinese are pumping out of their unscrubbed coal plants that go on-line almost weekly would be more than enough.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
1st Sep 2011
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Greenpeace already covered that.
Greenpeace released a report this past spring that said the sulfur from Chinas power plants had slowed global warming, but was not enough to reverse it.

It was their way of explaining away the adjusted global temps released from East Anglia after Climate Gate that showed an insignificant increase in global temps.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/daily-news-chinese-coal-plants-keeping-the-pl/blog/35579/
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 1st Sep 2011
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It's bound to backfire
Once you start something like this you can't stop. If you do then all of the pent up warming that you've prevented will come back. The only permanent cure is to reduce atmospheric levels of CO2.
Posted by riverat1
1st Sep 2011
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Reduce levels of CO2? That will rob plant matter of it's life cycle producing oxygen! Be a bit smarter than Al Gore before posting propaganda!
Posted by Destry3535
2nd Sep 2011
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WTH?
Why not use solar to capture Co2 while your up there. Carbon is a resource.
Posted by Unkleskunky
1st Sep 2011
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Ground level
If you're going to capture CO2 it's easier at ground level. Since it's evenly distributed through the atmosphere it doesn't matter where you collect it.
Posted by riverat1
1st Sep 2011
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Add this to the list of dumb ideas...
Add this to the list of dumb ideas that people have devised to fix the mess our species has made of this planet. I don't think the people that devise these ideas have any concept of the size of the planet.

They all end up red-faced when the numbers are finally crunched, and it's discovered that it would take something like ten million stadium sized balloons! And that's not even withstanding the reality of unintended consequences. Wouldn't it just make more sense to figure out how to stop harming the environment with our civilization?

I think we long passed the tipping point. We should really start building dikes around Manhattan to hold back the rising sea levels. We should be planning on population relocation in the coastal areas, and starting now with a ban on all new construction below a certain elevation.

At least we should end the tax dollar subsidized flood insurance for people that continue to rebuild in the same place, flood after flood. Flood insurance should only ever be good for one claim, and one claim only! To paraphrase - flood me once, shame on mother nature; flood me twice, shame on me!
Posted by omb00900@...
1st Sep 2011
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Flood insurance.
You are so right on that point. Locally we had several homes rebuilt 4 times in 15 years after floods until the government stepped in and relocated the people after the 5th flood.

The houses were less than 2 years old when they first flooded. They never should have been built there. The developer and the contractors who rebuilt them made a ton of money on the mess at the taxpayers expense.

But why did it take 5 floods for someone to say ENOUGH. MOVE.
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 1st Sep 2011
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"But why did it take 5 floods for someone to say ENOUGH."
GREED
Posted by chemtrailbeliever
1st Sep 2011
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B-b-but ...
That's government intervention to tell where I can and can't build my house. Maybe the government should just simply refuse to offer flood insurance in such cases. Then the builder likely couldn't get financing in the first place. On the other hand, the recent flooding in Vermont took out bridges that have stood for more than a century, so maybe it was on the exceptional side.
Posted by riverat1
1st Sep 2011
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Why did it take 5 floods?
Could it be because the government keep backing the flood insurance, or kept providing low interest loans to rebuild.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
1st Sep 2011
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Stop the toxic chemtrails by imprisoning the globalists and replacing governments
Posted by Destry3535
1st Sep 2011
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the first major experiment in the world in geoengineering???
This is about the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard! Unless, of course you don't categorize ChemTrail spraying all over the globe as an 'experiment'.

Heavy metals and toxins have been sprayed since the mid nineties and have gotten worse exponentially until the sun hardly shines and barium, 19 times the acceptable limit is found in people's blood in Arizona and rain water contains aluminum, barium and strontium.

Why don't you people WAKE UP! This is NOT a CONSPIRACY THEORY! This is CONSPIRACY FACT! Google ChemTrails. I can NOT believe that so many people can't just look up in the sky and see what the hell is happening.

And if you choose to ignore this and just go on believing that your government is working to protect you, then think again! You are betting your children's lives on this. I suggest you do the research to find out for sure! The proof is readily available and overwhelming.

YouTube search for 'What in the World are They Spraying'
Posted by NoMoreChemTrails
Updated - 1st Sep 2011
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You couldn't have put it any better!
AGREED and well put! If you don't believe him then why don't you look up at the sky in your own backyard and see for yourself those mile long trails that are planes showering us and our children and loved one with chemicals! The exhaust from a regular old airplane disapates after a few seconds these DON'T!!!
Posted by cassandraseets
1st Sep 2011
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First field test?!?!
This is such a laugh! They have been spraying toxic heavy metals into our atmosphere for nearly two decades! What's most amazing is that people believe their T.V. over their own eyes. There are videos and pictures all over the internet. This is nothing new. They are trying to retroactively justify their actions. See the link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA
Posted by NoryCaw
1st Sep 2011
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Geoengineering Moratorium - a non-issue
What a non-surprise to see an article lauding the 'benefits' of geoengineering measures, despite repeated denials by government and environmental ministries that this is going on. In a recent letter from the Environment Minister of Ontario, my concerns regarding aerial spraying of substances into our atmosphere for the purposes of reflecting solar radiation does not occur due to a UN moratorium on geoengineering. UN-fortunately, the moratorium (signed by 193 member countries) only covers seeding of our oceans for the same anti-climate change purposes. Aerial methods of geoengineering are clearly not covered by the moratorium and so any government that cites it as an explanation for what's not going on, are either lying or ignorant. The CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) is actively discussing the science of geoengineering, or has already made a decision if this article is to be believed. Clearly the powers that be (TPTB) have chosen to ignore the lack of scientific evidence that supports the wanton introduction of substances into our atmosphere for the purposes of affecting the planets weather. What is not being explored is the impact on our food supply, our water, our health and our planets future. No precautionary principle is being used here and science is again proving that whatever can be done should be tried, despite the results. See Mass Action Demand on Facebook for important work being done to prevent strategic aerosol spraying (or chemtrails).
Posted by martinhea
1st Sep 2011
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Geoengineering is deadly to humans, trees, plants
Geoengineering is one of the best kept secrets of the US army, who vowed to own the weather by 2012. This set of programs has been ongoing for many years, and has spewed aluminum, barium, as well as many other pathogens on us in at least all of the NATO countries; probably around the world. There is ample evidence it is toxic, but the media refuses to report on it, and the governments have lackeys whose job it is to deny that this is happening.

There are numerous research reports that provide documented evidence of the toxicity of aluminum nanoparticles (known to be a component of chemtrails-geoengineering). For example, see the report titled ???In Vitro Toxicity of Aluminum Nanoparticles in Rat Alveolar Macrophages??? by the Air Force Research Laboratory, written in 2001: http://t.co/zlLPzsc
More here; Air Crap; and here Clifford Carnicom; Aerosol Crimes.
Posted by Jaydayrock
1st Sep 2011
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ChemTrails, So much proof and so many lies!
How can the spraying of toxins go on and on for so many years and still the governments of the world continue to allow this genocide?!? My the psychopathic monsters responsible for this burn in hell!
BTW, Ecuador is the ONLY country that I know of that is NOT getting sprayed and that is because The President of Ecuador. Rafael Correa, recent stated that any planes spraying in his country would be forced down and captured. He said that the US government is responsible and that the American company DynCorp admitted to spraying in Columbia. Will Ecuador now suffer the same fate as Libya?
Posted by Sam Johnson
1st Sep 2011
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You are so correct!
Posted by Destry3535
1st Sep 2011
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More Lies
I see they are now trying to save fuel costs for pumping aluminum and barium particles into our atmosphere! Stick up a balloon into the sky to hold the end of a hose up there and just pump the $h??t to the sky instead of using C-135 tankers. This BS never ends!

Getting tired of the lies that it is for weather modification when it is really for extermination of population.
Posted by Destry3535
Updated - 1st Sep 2011
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Well said!
I was thinking that myself but forgot to mention it! 'They' will say it's for our own good and then will put any nasty dirty toxic chemical in it 'they' choose.
I'd like to fill up one of those bloody balloons with radioactive strontium (the kind 'they' spray us with) and stick it *****.... well, you know......
Also, this would likely make it easier to make 'their' sky holograms. Perhaps 'they' are more able to control the holographic material released into the atmosphere this way.
Google PROJECT BLUE BEAM
Posted by Sam Johnson
1st Sep 2011
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FIRST BALOON TEST, MAYBE, ALL BS.
I think that NASA and the Whitehouse need to hire someone new to spin their web of treason because i find it quite comical now days the blundering idiots they have to tell the public this toxic soup is contrails. I thought i had seen it all till a FBpost sent me to a NASA.GOV sight that was showing a small boy talking to other children telling them "don't be afraid of the contrails". This made me shake as i also saw the list of countries and their schools that this propaganda was linked to . Now i see the garbage about a balloon spewing dust. WOW. And i bet this op is ran out of the MET office,The Crown! I will post some pdf's i have on STRATEGIC ATMOSPHERIC GEOENGINEERING. Things we have all been looking for and was too blind to see.
Posted by MADDAVE50
1st Sep 2011
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Lighter than air comedy.
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Posted by heliumblimp
2nd Sep 2011
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This is Not The First geoengineering Project!!
I thought the Anthropenic Global Warming theory was debunked a while ago. After a hacker gained access to the university of East Anglia Climate Research Units computers and released confidential E-Mails on the internet exposing this Fraud.

The other thing that is seldom mentioned in the main stream media is the embarassing (for the scientists involved in this research) Fact of The Medieval Warm Period (WMP) experienced in the northern hemesphere and their attempt to disguise this in their models by manipulating the data AKA ...COOKING THE BOOKS!!!. to come to a pre-defined conclusion, that, on the one hand, suites the corrupt Globalists so they get their carbon taxes, and on the other, Dupes The Naive (Bought and Paid For) Mainstream Media and Unsuspecting Writers, into Propagating this Falsehood of Global warming.

There is already the mass spraying of damaging particulates into the atmosphere on a global scale by aircraft i.e. CHEMTRAILS!!!! Barium Oxide and aluminium being just two of the components to be found in these "TOXIC PLUMES". However, the spraying of Barium Oxid into the atmosphere may or may not be sufficient to Geoengineer the planet, if it is at all needed. But, it may serve another purpose. Check out the US Patents for HAARP ( High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) and the use of Barium Oxide to create a plasma layer in the atmosphere to deflect the HAARP transmissions to defined areas, weather manipulation being just one of HAARP'S abilities. I am sure it has more nefarious uses, it is run by the corrupt military industrial complex after all.
Posted by Plato Plum
2nd Sep 2011
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Agree this is definately not the first geoengineering project try 1958
They were using geoengineering from as early as the 1950s i have a short u tube video with them experimenting at that time then there is a whole video on a man involved in weather modification he was doing this around the time of the vietnam wars. You will note that agent orange which was also sprayed in vietnam is still causing problems today of malformed babies and soldiers suffered dearly because of that spraying.

We have an almost daily programme of geoengineering happening in the midlands, which I expect that im paying for to destroy my health. Fresh air should be something we take forgranted its the only thing we dont normally have to pay for in taxes but now we are having to breathe in aluminum, barium, strontium plus unknowns. Alot of the people in my neighbourhood have suffered with Asthma and im talking my immediate neighbours most of my sons school mates who live close by and my own sons. i thought this was to do with normal polution until i looked into what was really happening "GEOENGINEERING" . The trusting public are totally unaware of the evil experiments they are a part of .it makes me angry how the good people of the UK are having their health deliberately destroyed. Asthma rates are high in the uk and dementia which is a symptom of too much Aluminum is also rising rapidly. Aluminum can shut down the body because it attaches to the arteries and blocks them. This cavalier attitude of scientists is destroying the world the whole eco-system will be destroyed and is already affected both trees, soil, water and crops are poisened. Stop this madness stop being a puppet of the new world order which wishes to cull the populations of the world using global warming as its excuse. The whole of the world could fit into Texas I read its only looks overcrowded because people tend to settle around towns and cities but there is room enough for us all.
Posted by dandilion
2nd Sep 2011
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First DOCUMENTED geoengineering in 1915!
Correction...in 1915 the town of San Diego had a drought in one of it's counties, and offered $10,000 to anyone who could put an end to it... they paid it to a man, who unfortunately, not only made it rain, but nearly washed the town away! www.coto2.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/case-orange-60-years-of-geoengineering-goes-into-hyperdrive-as-???plan-b???/
Posted by NOLAButterfly
9th Jun
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Google WEATHER MODIFICATION
....and you will find companies like WEATHER MODIFICATION INC (they don't even hide their agenda!) an American company that has been GEONGENEERING (cloud seeding) since the 60s. This company 'augmented snow pack' in the Yellowstone area last winter. It was reported that this spring tens of thousands of elk and deer died of starvation because there was 200% more snow than normal. Did ANYONE else connect these dots?

I saw a video that was taken way back at Woodstock! This poor soggy hippie was slogging ankle deep in mud as he said 'Tell them to stop seeding the clouds! Stop the rain!"

Geoengeneering, crop spraying, using defoliant (Agent Orange) and ChemTrails are all applied in a similar matter, from air planes, but they all have a different agenda. All are toxic and should NOT be allowed. I don't remember being asked to vote on whether or not it was OK to spray us with heavy metals and toxins. Can you imagine the horrifying damage that has been done to nature?

ChemTrails are the obvious, in your face symptom of an even bigger problem.

I am totally offended that this or any other article would claim that geoengeneering is not being done now, every stinking DAY! and has been for decades. Just how stupid do 'they' think we sheeple are????

Main stream media is owned by 'them' and will NOT report on anything of any importance. It is almost all propaganda. Get your news from a number of alternate sources. Unfiltered News, Activist Post are just a couple of good reliable internet sites with no agenda other than to get the truth out there.

YouTube 'The Calling', New World Oder for Dummies for a start. God Bless us all!
Posted by NoMoreChemTrails
Updated - 2nd Sep 2011
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Smart Planet....Dumb Mankind
Believe it or not, right now the US is doing much worse. Want to have nightmares? Google HAARP and learn about it. Tesla, a long time ago developed a way to have free energy for the entire world with radio waves. Did our government or any others take advantage of it?? No, instead the kids in the Pentagon realized what a wonderful weapon it would be. HAARP has the ability to cause earthquakes and drastically change the weather. Several countries have HAARP (China, Russia) but nothing like the HAARP the US has and the US has been using it alot the last decade. US HAARP is based in Alaska, in Japan, in Puerto Rico and the Navy has a mobile unit on the oceans. It was used in the Vietnam war to produce downpours of rain to hopefully slow down the North Vietnam insurgents. The HAARP caused downpours worked but not in our favor. It didn't slow down the North Vietnamese. Search HAARP, chemtrails, HAARP clouds and HAARP lights in the sky (before earthquakes and after severe storms), and Chaf which is when the military sprays small particles of metals into the atmosphere and HAARP hits them with radio waves which heats up the ionosphere. For earthquakes the Radio Waves are directed directed directly into the earth. This is NOT a conspiracy but a fact, see for yourself, the information is everywhere.
Posted by Ron Paul is The ONE
2nd Sep 2011
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WHO ARE WE KIDDING?
So if this is the first EVER geoengineering experiment, why did the World Meteorological Organization say back in 2007 that, ???In recent years there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects.??? Me and a several MILLION people around the world have been watching planes make weather for years now, there are links, patents, websites, etc. that prove weather modification is nothing new. Why does ALL media refuse to cover this story HONESTLY? Here's one guy who was able to predict Joplin and Dallas severe weather disasters before the NOAA, as he learned to read the accidental "signatures" of the radar returns, which indicate electromagnetic foul play, or HAARP rings, Dutch Sinse. He also collected the Mother-load of all links to weather modification technology related pages... I recommend as journalists, you get informed on the subject before perpetuating the government's lies... PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP... www.sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/want-to-know-about-weather-modification-haarp-vlf-hf-and-chemtrails-want-to-prove-it-to-a-non-believer-here-you-go/
Posted by NOLAButterfly
9th Jun
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