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Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?

By | July 28, 2010, 4:00 AM PDT

It’s often said that necessity breeds invention. We need clean energy. We need to go to the bathroom. Why not combine the two?

Well, that’s what industrial design student Tom Broadbent did with his Highdro Power creation. On Monday, I discussed microbial fuel cell developments in generating electricity from wastewater. Broadbent has a different take on sewage power.

His Highdro Power device is meant to harness the power of plummeting wastewater in the pipes of high-rise buildings. When emptying a tub in a hotel room, Broadbent says he realized a potential energy source was washing down the drain.

In a statement out of De Montfort University, he says:

HighDro Power works by using the water discharged from appliances such as showers, toilets and sinks in high-rise apartments. The water goes down the pipe and hits four turbine blades that drive one generator.

The whole thing was influenced by traditional waterwheels to ensure that any solids passing through had limited effects on whether they could function.

Umm, thanks for solidifying that last detail for us, Tom. Just how many kilowatt/hours are produced by the scheme is not listed. But Broadbent surmises that if a building with seven floors piped its own energy, it could save more than $1,400 a year on power bills. Or the building could sell the electricity to utility companies.

Charlie Sorrel reports in WIRED:

The neat part is that the box is made from off-the-shelf parts along with sections that Broadbent put together in a fab-lab using lasers, CNC-milling and vacuum forming machines. In larger production, then, it should be cheap enough to pay for itself very quickly, and in places like hotels, with their endlessly-emptying baths and showers, it could even turn into a money-maker as the energy is sold back to the grid.

Currently, Broadbent is awaiting results for his prototype’s entry in the Institute of Engineering Designers awards and the James Dyson Awards. He hopes to have a working model in a building soon.

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That's some heavy s**t!
nt
Posted by DittoHeadStL
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
Does this *really* qualify as "clean" energy..?
Posted by sullivanjc
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
Also, you could capture the farts and use them to cool office workers instead of using energy hog fans.
Posted by ITOdeed
28th Jul 2010
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It only makes sense...
...as long as it cost much less than $1400/year to maintain. Effluent
and mechanical elements of plumbing typically do not get along well
together.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
28th Jul 2010
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Keep is simple..
I agree that this could work on showers and sinks, but adding toilets is asking for trouble.

Toilet solids would dramatically raise the cost of maintenance and negate any savings.

Water alone is much easier.
Posted by Hates Idiots
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
Of course, the energy used to pump the water up to the top of the building exceeds the energy you can get letting it flow out (2nd law of thermo). But it recaptures some of that energy. I suppose that if the building were designed to capture rainwater for use in the toilets that the efficiency could be increased through reduction of the cost of pumping the water up there in the first place.

There are technologies to separate solid from liquid wastes that might also avoid the worry about solids in the turbine. (I'm struggling to resist a comment about "the sh*t hits the fan" here; I hope you appreciate it.)
Posted by jgeorge12001@...
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
Imagine the recycled power available at the Burj Khalifa in Dubai, the current tallest building in the world.
Posted by bhartmann
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
I am reminded of counterweights used in elevator systems, or regenerative braking systems in electric or hybrid-electric cars. Since you expended energy pumping water up to the 99th or whatever floor of a very tall building, you might as well recover some of that energy when waste water (toilets or whatever) comes back down to the ground floor.
Posted by AlexKovnat
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
MMMMMMMM

Pre curried lamb comming to a bistro near you soon!
Posted by coffeeslob
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
As jgeorge12001 commented about "SHTF", imagine the poor maintenance person that has to work on that device!
NO THANKS!!
Posted by JTF243@...
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
I would hate to be the *ELECTRICIAN* called out to repair a gravity generator for a particularly busy toilet next to the Taco Bell restaurant on the 14th floor of a highrise building!
Posted by tech_ed@...
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
As near as I can figure out the sh*t is going to hit the fan.
Posted by JimHAv#3
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
Good thinking! I think this is a fantastic idea. If we could recoop all the lost sources of energy we waste now, we would have unlimited amounts I'm sure.
Posted by mail@...
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
Though the energy produced can not exceed, (or match), the energy required to pump the water up there, it is still a good idea.

P.S. Let's hope so Jim

P.P.S. Micrahard, I think a better technology would be for winter heating. Just light 'em up.
Posted by charles1957b
28th Jul 2010
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RE: Toilets in skyscrapers: energy source?
The lighting is getting better now, I can see my keyboard again. I'm so glad that Ralph works on the the 74th floor.
Posted by charles1957b
28th Jul 2010
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Energy source in more ways than one
This is but one step in recapturing energy otherwise lost to modern conveniences. There are many, many more ways to get some of that expended energy back. Add: ram pump using the post-generator flow to help get clean water back upstairs (I love the rainwater capture idea, @jgeorge12001); on-site waste treatment to generate biogas for heating/cooling and lower the volume and toxicity of effluent; rooftop gardens using the composted solids also reduces cooling bill.

Related ideas: How about adding regenerative braking to descending elevators to recapture spent electricity? Piping and concentrating waste heat from office lighting to make the coffee or thermoelectric generation for refrigerating the vending machines? The waste we take for granted is without limits.

"Attaboy" to Tom Broadbent for being able to implement his idea and bring it to life!
Posted by Get-Smart
29th Jul 2010
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