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Solar v Solar: Gloves come off at G20 summit

By | November 4, 2011, 4:36 AM PDT

Solar thermal plants like this one near Seville make a nice picture, but Iberdrola's chairman says they're senseless.

The fight between rival solar technologies spilled into a global arena yesterday, as the chairman of Spanish energy giant Iberdrola came out swinging against solar thermal electricity at the G20 summit of world leaders in Cannes.

In a one-two punch, chairman Ignacio Galan told the gathering that solar thermal power is too expensive, a week after he lashed out against the technology for high costs, inefficiency and for environmental hazards including CO2 emissions and water wastage.

Solar thermal, the photogenic form of solar electricity in which fields of mirror focus sunlight on a liquid that heats up, creates steam and drives a turbine, is too expensive compared to more mature renewable energy, including wind and photovoltaics – the better known form of solar power in which solar cells embedded in panels directly generate electricity, he said.

“In the current environment, this could be extremely dangerous for economic recovery,” Galan told the “B-20″ business track at the conclave of presidents and prime ministers.

Iberdrola prefers PV, such as its installation at Copper Crossing, Ariz.

Iberdrola prefers PV, such as its installation here at Copper Crossing, Ariz.

That echoed comments he made last week, when he told analysts in Madrid that, “The massive deployment of solar thermal plants has no justification, neither from the energy, economic or environmental point of view.”

Galan warned on both occasions that European and Spanish regulatory requirements that force investments in immature renewables leads to high end user prices.

He told analysts that Spanish consumers have already suffered financially from the premature installation of utility scale photovoltaics, a technology which has now come down in price but which cost too much during the heady installation days several years ago. They have cost Spanish consumers about €250 ($346) a year, he said.

“The situation could become much more severe in the next few years if we allow the errors made with the PV plants to be made again with thermosolar generation,” he told analysts

Solar provides 3 percent of Spain’s power, but represents 13 percent of the country’s power costs, he said, noting, “I’m sure this figure will increase as the new solar power stations are commissioned, and we have to do something about this over the next few years.”

He also delivered several body blows to solar thermal for what he claimed are its ecological hazards.

Galan's Iberdrola is a huge wind proponent.

The water required for cleaning mirrors and generating steam makes solar thermal environmentally unsound, Galan noted.

“These plants consume close to 10,000 liters (2,642 U.S. gallons) of water for each megawatt hour produced – figures which are closer to those of a coal plant and much greater than photovoltaic plants, which practically require nothing, and much more than wind power reduction, which would require zero,” Galan told analysts.

Iberdrola had 2010 revenue of €30.4 ($42.1) billion and is one of the world’s largest utilities, with holdings around the world including Europe and the U.S., and interests in wind, solar, nuclear gas and coal power. It claims to be the world’s leading producer of wind power. Its solar operations include a utility scale photovoltaic plant in Copper Crossing, Arizona, and a solar thermal plant in Kuraymat, Egypt, where it combines the technology with a gas-fired station. (Don’t’ expect more of those from the Spanish company).

Galan’s comments escalate the war of words between the PV and solar thermal - also known as concentrating solar power - camps. Solar thermal backers Desertec recently questioned whether Greece’s giant, 10-gigawatt Project Helios photovoltaic scheme could work. Europe’s leaders have earmarked Helios to contribute $21.2 billion to their bail out  of Greece (so perhaps Galan was lobbying for a piece of the Helios pie).

Also, German solar thermal company Solar Millennium announced last summer that it is shifting its technology from solar thermal to PV at its Blythe, Calif. plant. Other utilities are also moving away from solar thermal and towards PV.

Photos: Top, Wikimedia. Middle and bottom, Iberdrola.

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I would have to side with Mr. Galan on this one.
Most solar thermal installations are very inefficient. When they require millions of gallons of water for cooling that tells me it is a poor design that is wasting solar heat.

MIT students did demonstrate a stand-alone solar furnace design that looked like a 3-meter satellite dish. The design would give PV a run for its money.

Being a self contained unit it heated a liquid medium and using a small pump circulated it to a small turbine located behind the dish. The overall heat lost was negligible because there was minimal plumbing involved. The medium was returned to the dish relatively speaking not much cooler than when it hit the turbine. This allowed the small surface area of the dish to properly heat the target coils.

A small PV panel mounted to the top of the dish powered the circulating pump making it a stand-alone unit capable of being used in a disaster zone or in clusters feeding a power grid. It did not require outside power to operate.
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4th Nov 2011
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Wind Power
Is anyone considering the fact that climate change is very likely to change wind patterns, leaving some very expensive equipment (NOT BLOWING IN THE WIND). Would love to see any literature on this if anyone can steer me in the right direction.
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1st Mar 2012
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Wind Power again
Mr Galan prefers wind to Solar, be it PV or thermal, thinking solar environmentally problematic. Does he consider that a large wind farm which efficiently extracts energy from the wind leaves a 'wind-shadow' and is thus likely to alter the micro-climate (at least) in the locality? Nothing is 'free'. Take too much energy out of the wind and you'll certainly change the weather locally, if not the climate. I assume someone takes these things into account.
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22nd Nov
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