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Skewedonomics? Facebook’s worth $100B, trouncing companies that actually make things

By | February 2, 2012, 7:02 AM PST

We interrupt this program to bring you an astounding comparison, as news breaks that Facebook is indeed worth up to $100 billion….

Is there anything wrong with the picture portrayed below, or this the way capitalism should work? Your answers to this curious question of our cyber-obsessed times are most welcome. It doesn’t matter where they fall in the philosophical or political spectrum, just as long as they fall into the comments section at the bottom of this post!

A PICTURE OF HOW CAPITALISM WORKS:

Facebook. What it does: Manufactures nothing. Dupes you into freely giving it valuable and revealing information about yourself without financially compensating you (it does provide you a “service”). It leverages this into profits, last year making $1 billion. Your personal information can potentially fall into the wrong hands, possibly leading to identify theft and worse. How much it’s worth: $100 billion.

vs.

The following companies that all manufacture useful things that we routinely write about here on SmartPlanet’s energy section, and across SP. In many instances the products directly generate electricity in a “renewable” manner, reducing the world’s dependence on fossil fuels that pollute, that spew global warming-linked CO2, and that are at the root of volatile global economics and conflict. I’ve included other types of manufacturers - like car makers, for instance - most of whom are “greening up” products (as is Facebook, which is attempting to cut the voracious need for electricity at its huge data centers) that we all use everyday.

Format: company name (what it manufactures): how much it’s worth.

  • Suntech (solar panels): $598 million
  • Yingli (solar panels): $655 million
  • Vestas (wind turbines): $2.3 billion
  • First Solar (solar panels): $3.7 billion
  • Babcock & Wilcox (small nuclear reactors, among others): $3.8 billion
  • Peugeot Citroen (cars): $4.5 billion
  • Sinovel (wind turbines): $4.9 billion
  • GCL Poly (polysilicon for solar panels): $5.3 billion
  • Fiat (cars): $8 billion
  • Areva (nuclear reactors): $9.5 billion
  • Philips (LEDs, healthcare, appliances): $20.7 billion
  • EADS (aerospace/aircraft): $27.9 billion
  • ArcelorMittal (steel): $32.8 billion
  • General Motors (cars): $38.1 billion
  • Ford (cars): $46.9 billion
  • Boeing (aerospace/aircraft): $56 billion
  • Daimler AG (cars): $61.1 billion
  • Volkswagen (cars): $80.2 billion
  • Siemens (trains, lightbulbs, wind turbines, solar panels): $87.4 billion
  • Facebook (nothing!): $100 billion
  • Toyota (cars): $129.2 billion
  • General Electric (trains, wind turbines, jet engines, appliances, light bulbs): $198.2 billion

market capitalization figures from Reuters, except for Facebook’s $100 billion, which the press is widely reporting today in reports confirming that Facebook plans an initial public stock offering.

photo of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg from Brian Solis via Wikimedia

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now if it only had actual worth
Only thing I've done with Facebook in the last 6 months, was apply for a contest that was social-media entry only, and remove all of my info. Sites like FB are a waste of time, have no real worth or value. Don't get me started on twitter.
Posted by jonrosen
2nd Feb 2012
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what they make
Steal people's personal data, aggregate it and sell it. to marketing scum. value $100 Billion.

Do I hear a zit popping?
Posted by zclayton3
Updated - 2nd Feb 2012
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I can't believe this discussion made it on smartplanet
I guess the editor was asleep.
Posted by philrushworth
2nd Feb 2012
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I have the next $100B idea
Anyone interested in buying the idea for ?????
Posted by woftbo@...
2nd Feb 2012
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Another bubble waiting to burst?
I'm trying to figure how if it made $1B last year that somehow makes it worth $100B!
Posted by harrim47
Updated - 2nd Feb 2012
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Good Possibility
There have been overhyped IPOs in the past that started great and within a few months lose most of the value. .
Posted by sboverie
2nd Feb 2012
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Facebook and fairy money
I can't believe that anyone with any intelligence would think that some airie fairie company like Facebook had that kind of valuation. It just goes to show that a lot of people are really slow learners and keep grasping at air.
Posted by builder50@...
2nd Feb 2012
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Booored
With out any thing to do. Get on face book, It expands your mind. And you can joine Outher people who have nothing to do.Wooooo
Posted by davewsr2
2nd Feb 2012
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Sounds fine to me
It sounds to me like Zuckerberg has done a fantastic job. Wouldn't all of us enjoy being worth 10 billion (note: the company is 100, I believe he is 10.)? I don't believe the man has done anything ethically wrong to secure this position, and even if he has, by common standards, I don't really care. His business is remarkably effective at what it does, which is more than anyone can say for most governments (for example.)
Posted by kyle_towns
2nd Feb 2012
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TEST
Testing how to find my own comment on here....12345678910!!!
Posted by cjnavas
2nd Feb 2012
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Facebook
Anyone stupid enough to put personally identifying information and pictures of themselves, friends, family etc, for the whole world to see is a fool. I keep my face out of facebook. It is a shrewdly constructed scam to allow a voyeuristic market research monopoly to have free access to your most private inner life. Zuckerberg is neither hero nor entrepreneur. He is a first rate shrewdie scam artist.
Posted by Arctic Char
2nd Feb 2012
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Many people suffer
Amen. I have had so many friends who have had to shut thier pages down due to malicious people spreading stories or actual stalking and predatory action.
Posted by jmb3428
3rd Feb 2012
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Facebook
BTW, remember myspace? It is so easy to create a social interaction website that it destroyed itself. As soon as people figure out what facebook is really for it will go with myspace.
Posted by Arctic Char
2nd Feb 2012
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This has to be
This has to be the biggest bit of Wall Street insanity since they thought AOL buying Time Warner was a good idea. . . Of course it WAS. . . If you owned AOL stock. Time Warner? Not so good. . .
Posted by CodeCurmudgeon
2nd Feb 2012
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Insanity or trickery ? Wall St play on FaceBook
More than 800 million active users.. so $1.00 per month per user = ?? So why is an IPO happening ?
Posted by Frank Deluca
2nd Feb 2012
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It's like it's 1998 all over again.
Remember when companies like eBay (basically just a room full of servers and a few hundred employees at the time) had a market cap greater than that of the entire US aerospace industry? (One that employed hundreds-of-thousands and sold billions in products each and every year) Anyone remember theglobe.com? It went from being worth a few million to nearly a billion overnight, and then virtually disappeared. (At least Facebook actually has several billion users and actually makes money)

Don't confuse any of this with "capitalism". It's not. It's the arbitrage business back to its old game. It's gambling, pure and simple. It's all about bidding these companies up, and then not being caught as the one still holding the paper when the music stops.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
Updated - 3rd Feb 2012
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The tech bubble tought us nothing
As an understanding of capitalism and economic principles seems as rare as platinum, we return to the mob mentality of the 90's where you Had to get on board IPO's fast and money was made (ponzi scheme anyone?) regardless of any fact outside of a flashy name in one important sector.
It can only lead to the same outcome: crash.
Posted by jmb3428
3rd Feb 2012
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Basic values
We have now truely become a service economy. All of our gripping about how China has stolen our manufacturing jobs has been rendered false. We would rather talk about things than build them. Gripe rather than act. Tell our friends where we ate rather than actually cook.

Our elected officials talk rather than act - why shouldn't we? It's become the new American way. We have become a vicarious society, a country of the leisure class. We talk, we post and we share - fewer and fewer of us actually work.

Be careful what yolu wish for......
Posted by x3456
3rd Feb 2012
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