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Why the Spanish aren’t entrepreneurs

By | February 18, 2013, 3:04 AM PST

Barcelona — Generation Y in Spain isn’t asking why, they’re just floundering about. Sixty percent of the country’s over-educated lost generation of university and master’s graduates aged 30 and under aren’t getting hired. With around 26 percent unemployment nationwide, these young adults are left to fight over unpaid internships and jobs beneath their experience levels, just to get something to put on their resume. According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD,) 44 percent of the Spanish aged 25 to 29 that actually have jobs are working in ones that require lesser skills than they have. So with no families, no mortgages and little else to lose, why aren’t more of them creating jobs for themselves?

Many say the Spanish are just lazy, but that’s not it. There’s something else, intangible, that’s developed in the culture and history. The children of Spain aren’t raised to follow their dreams. School has become, for the most part, just a place for passing exams, never for debate, discussion or critical thinking. Your curro, or job, is to endure from nine to nine, pushing buttons until the next break. A history of civil war and a 39-year dictatorship, followed by a construction boom and crash, to now, where it’s taken for granted that politicians will be corrupt, has led to a nation that’s devoutly proud of being Spanish, but that can’t define what that even means.

Beyond the absurdly challenging bureaucracy and the fact that banks are hardly offering loans at all anymore, there’s something stagnant about the government-controlled education system and the culture in general that is keeping the nation’s most book-learned generation in history from reaching its potential. SmartPlanet sets out to re-open the discussion of why technically adept young adults are not looking to start their own businesses and why this resistance to altering the status quo has led Spain to be predicted as one of the slowest kids in the PIIGS (referring to Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain, those most hit by Eurozone crisis,) who will take the longest to climb out of its own economic free fall.

“Upon graduation, 70 percent of Spanish people want to work in large companies, while 70 percent of American graduates want to be their own bosses,” writes Juan Angel Hernandez, in a recent op-ed for a Spanish financial magazine, advocating on behalf of start-ups, as a solution to the crisis. He writes about how the goals of recent grads are either to work for the government or one of Spain’s top ten companies.

So instead of between 50 and 80 percent of recent grads studying for absurdly competitive government jobs, why aren’t they creating their own opportunities? One of the EU’s top MBA programs ESADE set out to explore that in their White Paper on Entrepreneurship in Spain. Since entrepreneurship still isn’t commonly talked about in Spanish higher education, this paper from 2010 has the most current, in-depth findings. The researchers concluded that start-up values can best be instilled at a young age and the education system is not up to the task. It states that: “Entrepreneurship can be learnt at school and should be actively promoted so that young Spaniards can develop skills such as independence, self-confidence and decision-making in situations of risk.” The researchers came to the conclusion that, “Young Spanish people don’t feel they have been taught how to be entrepreneurs, which is why teachers need to have the relevant tools and materials to teach business acumen and initiative, whilst also fostering their students’ interaction with local entrepreneurs.”

Blaming the education system — which only maybe changes when a new political party takes power every eight years — isn’t a new theme. This isn’t a nation where kids are asked what they want to be when they grow up. “In high school and university, no one has ever asked them what their motivation is — the most important part” of starting your own business, says Eva Snijders, entrepreneur and founder of Barcelona-based start-up Quimica Visual Storytelling, which helps companies internally innovate in times of crisis and transition. She says, “People here concentrate on whether it’s difficult to build a business and why it takes time and money.”

Rosaura Alastruey, founder of ProyectosTIC, hosts motivational workshops for both the employed and unemployed. She says, “Un emprendedor es un bicho raro,” which translates to “an entrepreneur is a rare bug,” or a freak or oddball. In Spain, “Jobs are to subsist,” she told SP recently. There’s no need to like what you do, you just need to have a job.

It seems that you only look to start a company when it’s the last thing left to try. Alastruey says, “I have students: ‘After a year or two years unemployed, now I want to open a business.’ It’s the last option.” The ESADE white paper states that four out of ten Spanish entrepreneurs act out of necessity, which isn’t exactly the sort of drive most VCs and business angels are looking for.

When asked where the youth of Spain is being directed away from entrepreneurship, Alastruey quickly repeats the mantra: “The schools.”

Folks in their twenties and thirties make up the first generation after the dictatorship of General Franco. “This is the generation where the parents didn’t have anything, so their kids have everything, not learning that everything has a cost.” The sons and daughters of the post-Franco world aren’t living to make ends meet, but are simply waiting for their ideal job or are opositando, the truly Spanish phenomenon of studying for the highly competitive civil service exams. Many, on their parents’ dime, study nine hours a day, six days a week for these exams, for one to five years at a time, while some of these jobs-for-life can see 1,000 applicants for only three spots.

As one entrepreneur at a networking event recently said, “You’re 23 years old with your whole life ahead of you and all you can dream of is to be a public servant?”

Last year, SP interviewed Complutense University’s tiny MBA in Entrepreneurship, which was developed after realizing that the university was actually uninspiring their students. “We realized that the students’ entrepreneurial behavior was much higher when they started [their bachelor's] than when they finished,” said one of the program heads, during the SP interview. The students were “more likely to start a company when they started university. What we discovered was that the university was deterring them from starting their own business.” Moreover, more than half of Complutense’s graduates intended to study for the civil service exams.

The don’t-take-risks mentality comes down from their parents, who, more often than not, hate their jobs, but continue to cling to them. Someone who has been working for the same company for 15 years will, if they lose their jobs, receive a tax-free lump-sum check for two years’ pay. However, since last year’s new labor reform act, the next generation of workers may not have the same access to these severance payouts. Plus, many companies are in the practice of paying part of the salary under the table, which means that is discounted from the total paid if the job is lost. In 2010, 19 percent more Spanish companies closed than were opened, giving everyone reason to be more nervous about their job stability.

Of course, even in times of economic boom, the Spanish, in particular, fear failure. Like Hawthorne’s scarlet letter, in Spain, you get branded with an “X” if you fail, and you never try again. There is no culture of “if you fail, try, try again” or of learning from your mistakes. As Enrique Samper, founder of NIMGenetics, told SP last year, “There’s something in Spain that’s risk adverse,” Samper says. “We are not used to debating, having open discussions in general. This is all flipped in the entrepreneurial community.”

In this country, a common cliche is “En el pais de los ciegos, el tuerto es el rey,” which translates to “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.” It may be a socialist society, but that hasn’t fostered the idea of the united cause here. When politicians are corrupt, most of the people aren’t up in arms, but tolerant, saying they’d do the same thing if they were in that situation. It’s not about keeping up with the Joneses here, it’s about getting more out of the government or any other situation than anyone else does.

Spanish history and culture don’t teach the philosophy of success by hard work and risk-taking, but to have respect for those that have gained success through acting craftily and cunningly. Spain’s most beloved book The Life of Lazarillo de Tormes and his Fortunes and Adversaries tells the story of an extremely poor child Lazaro who is hired as the servant of a cruel blind man. For the sake of survival, innocent Lazaro grows into a cunning young man who learns to cheat the cheaters.

In one tale, this Spanish literary hero is eating grapes with the blind man. They decide to share, each eating one at a time. Soon, the old man starts taking two. Lazaro then begins to eat them three at a time. When the grapes are finished, the old man calls him on being a cheater, to which Lazaro asks him why. The old man essentially says, “If I cheat and you don’t say anything, I assume you’re cheating too. We all try to fool each other.”

Almost five hundred years later, Lazaro’s tale still paints a perfect picture of Spanish society. On January 31, Spanish newspaper El Pais raised allegations of corruption against the top members of the ruling Popular Party, including Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, for allegedly not declaring hundreds of thousands of euros in income. PP has yet to fully address the issue and there is no real talk of the party leaders stepping down any time soon. This drives home the point that Spain remains a pessimistic country that doesn’t believe in opportunities, but accepts or even praises corruption and underhandedness.

The unemployed in Spain, with impossible-to-replace jobs like architects, aren’t taking advantage of their opportunities either. Here, if you are receiving paro — unemployment benefits — you have the option of capitalizacion, which allows you to write a detailed business plan and, if approved, you may receive around 80 percent of your two years of benefits upfront to invest into your own small business. This is one of the few situations where the government is actually betting on start-ups, but the folks aren’t buying.

Recently, SP attended a free class on how to start your own business, offered by the Community of Madrid, the province that is mostly made up of the capital. It was a full classroom of about 40 individuals, no one under 40, all looking to create clothing shops, convenience stores, or locutorios. Not a single person spoke of e-commerce, technology, or something unique. The only ideas that came up of financing those small businesses were the banks — virtually impossible in Spain right now — and family and inheritance. Up until the crisis, this country’s real estate boom was based on parents co-signing their kids’ zero-percent-down mortgages. Now, the banks are foreclosing on that kid’s house, that parent’s house, and still expecting the both to pay. No fiscal lessons are being learned from the crisis and certainly no one seems to be getting more creative because of it.

ESADE’s white paper also includes the fact that, while five percent of the Spanish population are small business owners, less than half of these “independent companies” has two or more employees. Only a mere ten percent, or five out of every thousand small businesses, has ten or more employees. This goes to show how many of the Spanish do share a desire with most cultures to be their own bosses, but that it stops there. There are, of course, freelancers, particularly in the architecture industry and others impossibly hit by the crisis, who, following their two years of government-funded unemployment, try to outsource themselves to any job they can get. And there are the shopkeepers. But the majority of these people aren’t Zara’s Amancio Ortega, who went from owning one clothing shop 40 years ago to being one of the five richest men in the world, but rather they usually only open just one shop or bar, as part of creating a legacy to pass down to their children. They rarely think of opening an online store, which is a much lower-risk investment, and they don’t consider whether that’s what their children would like to do anyway.

In fact, according to the 2012 report by European Commission’s Eurostat, Spanish SMBs score average or below average against other EU member states on their ten points of evaluating small businesses, with the exception of Spain doing above average on “Thinking small first.” Spain scores well below the EU average on entrepreneurship, access to finance, state aid and public procurement, and internationalization. It just goes to show that Spain’s small businesses may be good at thinking independently, but only if small and local.

To compound the country’s economic problems even more, with fewer job prospects at lower salaries at home, Spanish university grads are looking off the peninsula, causing a brain drain that could be irreparable if and when their home economy bounces back. The Spanish National Statistics Institute revealed last year that twice as many of Spain’s youth are currently emigrating than were in 2010. This creates a huge risk for the nation’s future.

Castellanos are fond of saying poco a poco or little by little. In the meantime, SmartPlanet is happy to continue to highlight the technology and innovation of the few and the proud here in Spain, those still willing to fall on their asses as they go against the grain to start their own businesses.

Photos: La Colmena/ “Lazarillo de Tormes” by Goya, Wikipedia

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Jennifer Riggins is a Barcelona correspondent for SmartPlanet.

Jennifer Riggins

Jennifer Riggins

Correspondent, Barcelona

Jennifer Riggins has held a number of positions in journalism, community organizing, non-profit fundraising, sales, and teaching English as a foreign language. She holds a degree from William Paterson University. She is based in Spain.

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Thank you Jennifer...
...for a most interesting piece. There is a lot to digest in this about the interface between culture, economics, and government policy.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
18th Feb
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Trudging Down the Road to Serfdom...
"Theres something else, intangible, thats developed in the culture and history."

You bet there is, except that it's not intangible at all. It's called ***SOCIALISM***.

The anemic economic growth and endemic high unemployment we are experiencing here in the U.S. are a direct consequence of Obama's ever expanding socialist government gravy train. It's not a mystery. We have reams and reams of empirical evidence demonstrating that socialism doesn't work. All you have to do is peek across the pond. Spain is merely exhibit A.

But, hey, don't worry, my fellow frogs. Everything is peachy! Free healthcare for everybody! Free preschool for all! Free everything! Free, free, free! Hop in the pot! The water's nice and warm. Poco a poco!
Posted by tthor
18th Feb
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If You Are Stupid It Is Best Not To Say Anything
Tthor I will assume you have never even stepped into Spain and probably think it is a part of Mexico. Leave out your prejudices as you detract from a good article.
Posted by Grahunt
18th Feb
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Ad Hominem Attack - The First and Last Refuge of the Misinformed
"It is actively penalised by the tax and bureaucracy systems to be an entrepreneur or self employed in Spain and as you know the start up costs are huge compared with most other countries."

Do you simply not understand the effects of socialism when they are staring you in the face? Stupid is as stupid does, my leftist friend.

BTW, I enjoy both Spain and Mexico; I just wouldn't want to live in either. I'm carrying a beautiful Muela pocketknife in my pocket right now, a souvenir of my last trip to the former. Perhaps you might want to check your own prejudices at the door.
Posted by tthor
18th Feb
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Wrong Again
The actual system that strangles business here was actually put in place by a Fascist dictator, a certain Mr Franco, not someone you could call socialist really. The governments since, (Mostly right wing free market liberals) have refused to dismantle the system as it protects their positions.

Nice to know you enjoy both countries just not sure you actually understand anything at all about politics.
Posted by Grahunt
19th Feb
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Wrong again, again.
The only real difference between "communism" and "fascism" is the bookkeeping; who gets to own things. They are both statist, top-down, central-planning dictatorships.

So actually, he's more correct that wrong.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
19th Feb
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Almost
But not if he puts it down to "Socialism" which he did which differs widely from Communism.
Posted by Grahunt
19th Feb
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What? You do know that communism is based on socialism.
Definition of COMMUNISM

1a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed

2 : capitalized
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively.

Communism would be a classless, stateless, moneyless society based on common ownership and the principle of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_philosophy
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 19th Feb
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Okay, then...
...the only other real difference between "socialism" and "fascism" is that under socialism, everybody is free to pick everybody else's pocket.

Better?
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
Updated - 20th Feb
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You are proof that, liberals hate it when the truth smacks them squarely on
the face.

What the poster above you posted is absolute truth, and undeniable truth. Socialism always destroys the spirit of a people who might otherwise have been able to achieve and bring themselves and society to great heights.
Posted by adornoe
18th Feb
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Meh!
Hor5e5h1t..

The overall article, barely covers Spanish membership of the EU. It skips from 39 years of dictatorship, to a property boom, and misses the rest out. The EU is hugely far from perfect, but it has along with NATO and globalisation, kept Europe at peace for nearly 75 years.
Posted by neil.postlethwaite@...
18th Feb
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The EU helped keep peace for 75 years?
Since 1945 the largest contributor to peace in Europe has been the US military.

Post WW II the leaders of Europe begged the US military to stay after seeing what happened after we left after WW I. NATO would be a joke if you pull US forces out of the mix.

I love how so many people here rant about how the European nations have their priorities straight because they spend so little on their military and so much more on the people.

The Europeans can spend so little on their military because the US taxpayer has protected their collective backsides since 1945. They owe us their very freedom, yet the greedy leeches keep demanding more.

Every time a US President even mentions cutting forces in Europe there is outrage. The first complaint is always how damaging US military cuts in Europe would be to the European economy and the budgets of nations required to spend more for national defense.

http://www.defencemanagement.com/feature_story.asp?id=17242

They are going nuts over Obamas planned US military cuts and military aid cuts in Europe.

http://centreforeuropeanreform.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-cuts-in-us-defence-budget-will.html

And look around at what the European nanny state mentality has done since 1945. Even with minimal military spending many of the nations of Europe are broke.
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 19th Feb
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And notice how even when they actually want to "keep the peace"...
...EU nations can't even mount limited campaigns without depending on American assets, be they ships or long-range cargo planes.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-begins-transporting-french-troops-mali-140606472.html

They can't even deploy the few people they have.

Every time there is an international disaster, America is lamented for its "stinginess", and yet almost all of the first-response aid and tactical support is provided by American ships and aircraft, simply because the EU nations don't have any. And of course, that just doesn't count to them.

But this is what happens with "social democracies"; When a society becomes all about "getting more out of the government or any other situation than anyone else does.", non-personal things like defense, charity, and certainly international aid get pushed out of the budget.

This is what the Progressives wish the US to become; "kinder & gentler" and less influential. But I have to ask them this: Who is going to take up the role of the world's "global police"? The Chinese Communists?
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
Updated - 19th Feb
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See my reply
Ever heard of Franco? Thought not
Posted by Grahunt
19th Feb
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Do you know who Franco was?
What percentage of people were en paro during the Franco years?
Posted by NewtonsMom
22nd Feb
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Dude...
You watch a lot of Fox propaganda, don't you? You are hereby defined as a Murdoch moron.
Posted by ITOdeed
22nd Feb
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Tthor
I'm an American who has been living in Spain for nearly 20 years - so I most certainly know the difference between Spain and Mexico as I pay taxes in Spain. I find Tthor's comment EXACTLY on point. I myself have been trying to start a business in Spain, but the bureaucracy of the giant socialist machine makes it damn near impossible. Keep dreaming that your social engineering will save you Grahunt. Spaniards have dreamt themselves right into this impossible mess.
Posted by NewtonsMom
22nd Feb
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Free?
Of course, we should continue with free labor, provided by interns who owe thousands for their educations at "public" universities.
We should continue with free subsidies to the most profitable oil companies.
We should continue with free tax bills, provided by loopholes in the codes to only the biggest corporations.
We should continue with free bailouts to financial institutions, lest we expose our financial system for the scam it has become.
We should continue to allow government contractors to control their own profits by giving them cost-plus contracts.
The only "socialism" in this country benefits only the top and very bottom economic classes. It's called the ownership society, they own it, we pay for it.
Posted by captainanalog
22nd Feb
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Precisely
right.
Posted by NotSoTupeloHoney
2nd Mar
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The Spanish Democracy has been a farse...
Excelllent piece. IMHO the "Spanish Problem" lies around the fact that we never conquered our democracy. We were suddenly declared a democracy. The reality has been a kind of Cosa Nostra between the four main parties (PP, PSOE, CiU & PNV) in which they shared power and businesses and the people just expected to receive something from them. The awakening has been brutal and invigorating at the same time. Spain is transitioning NOW. Right now. Maybe towards a dark future, who knows... but you can bet that the kids coming behind the lost generation are a lot tougher and (eventually) better fitted for this century
Posted by JuanMR
11th Mar
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Dreamless Land
Sad, really, such a waste of youth. Maybe some young artists, if there are any, can help
their peers remember how to dream, open their eyes, and take risk.
Posted by dsraia
18th Feb
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The Missing Link
Good article Jennifer but missing one huge white elephant in the room, the governments. It is actively penalised by the tax and bureaucracy systems to be an entrepreneur or self employed in Spain and as you know the start up costs are huge compared with most other countries. Therefore most budding businesses are strangled even before birth because the initial setup costs too much in both time and money. Education is prescriptive too of course with rote learning and little application of knowledge to solve problems but it is not the whole story.
Posted by Grahunt
18th Feb
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Also telling was the near-vacuum of "medium" sized businesses...
...of more than a few employees:

"...while five percent of the Spanish population are small business owners, less than half of these independent companies has two or more employees. Only a mere ten percent, or five out of every thousand small businesses, has ten or more employees. This goes to show how many of the Spanish do share a desire with most cultures to be their own bosses, but that it stops there."

More likely, this goes to show that how onerous employment law is to small companies. These companies cannot afford to absorb the benefits & liabilities (including near-guaranteed lifetime employment) that mega-corporations and government can.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
Updated - 18th Feb
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Good Point
The restrictions to growth are huge
Posted by Grahunt
19th Feb
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govt is not the problem
Government per se is not the problem in Spain. Corrupt government is the problem there (and in Italy and in Mexico and ...)
Posted by minstrelmike@...
22nd Feb
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you don't know who you are
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth!! Your government is socialist....You say it's the governments fault and later you say it's not the fault of socialism.
Posted by NewtonsMom
22nd Feb
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You reap what you sow.
"The old man essentially says, If I cheat and you dont say anything, I assume youre cheating too. We all try to fool each other. "

A culture of lazy and corrupt people breeds youth who are lazy and corrupt.

In the US we are raising generations of kids to believe that:

Everyone is a winner.

Everyone is entitled to have without effort.

You as an individual are powerless to effect change in your life.

You are a victim of what other people do to you.

Your actions have no consequences.

Only the government can change things.

Only the government can help you.

Look around at the nation we are becoming. Are you happy?
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 18th Feb
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"Socialism", in a nutshell
"Its not about keeping up with the Joneses here, its about getting more out of the government or any other situation than anyone else does."
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
18th Feb
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It's socialism, which depends on indoctrination via the school system,
and the school system in Spain was set up to promote mediocre results from their students.

It's exactly what has been happening in the U.S., and America is just one small step from becoming Spain and/or Greece.

"Its not about keeping up with the Joneses here, its about getting more out of the government or any other situation than anyone else does."

That's the result of socialism, where people have lost all their drive and the incentives to improve themselves are either lacking, or might as well be punishments for trying.
Posted by adornoe
18th Feb
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And clearly, it's worked very well.
They've successfully beaten the will to be independent & free out of people. Most are fighting to be lemmings in government service, and those who don't aspire to that just give up.

Sad. Will we pay attention to this?
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
19th Feb
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What's yours is mine...
And other adages from the current administration who have done their utmost to instill europeon socialism in this country.
Posted by ajrmd
22nd Feb
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But, isn't that......
the whole premise of Capitalism? We add value to raw capital, only to see that added value given to those who create nothing but more capital for themselves.
Certainly people look to government to provide security, a good job, and affordable housing because your "free" market has failed to do so.
Posted by captainanalog
22nd Feb
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Has the "free" market failed?
Or is it that you are expecting too much from it? There is no truly free lunch under any system.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
23rd Feb
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Perhaps I did
However, I only expected what I was told to expect: Get good education in a tech field, take an entry-level job, learn, work, stay loyal to the company, grow with the company, retire with a pension.
That worked well for my parents, who provided me with their example.
Oh wait, both of them worked for government contractors. Perhaps that wasn't the "real" world after all.
Posted by captainanalog
23rd Feb
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My parents told me the same thing.
Fortunately, I ignored them.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
27th Feb
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False premise
I've seen Spanish people set up businesses in the UK, and know personally many who've done so in Spain. Of course i don't know the big guns like the Inditex guy, or anyone at Mango, Restalia or Desigual, but if you want to find plenty of Spanish people launching start-ups or new businesses, merely take a daily look at Loogic.com or the emprendedores magazine. Incidentally, although the recession has hit hard, people are trying to fight back - the numbers created of new companies in Spain reached 87,066 in 2012 which is the highest level for the past 4 years.
Posted by DBMarcos99
18th Feb
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There are several premises within the article, and all of them are spot on.
If any of the premises were to be false, how the heck would you or anyone else explain the massive failure that Spain has become? That is a country with no desire to succeed anymore, even if you might find a few people with the desire to succeed beyond what they see all around them. Socialism ALWAYS saps the ideas and initiatives and self-dependence that would otherwise exist in a free society.
Posted by adornoe
18th Feb
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Really interesting article
Congratulations, Jennifer for your article. Being Spaniard and entrepreneur myself, I feel that you describe accurately the current situation and its causes. I would only like to add that, from my point of view, there is also some kind of cultural barrier that makes us difficult to go out of Spain to make business. It is also the language barrier, but not only. We have been for generations relying only on the domestic market, and now it is difficult for Spanish small companies to grow with this limitation. Things are changing now, but it will probably take time.

Some of the comments to your article are offensive and, most important, inaccurate. ("... culture of lazy and corrupt people ... " they say). I have to admit that we have earned a bad reputation, but I also have to say that these are clichs. Most people I know work very hard to earn their lives, same as in any other country.

Thanks
Juan Carlos
Posted by DizzyJuan
18th Feb
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Austerity vs. Growth
Juan,

I seek your opinion as a firsthand observer: Paul Krugman of the New York Times claims the woes of the southern EU nations, including Spain, are due to the lack of a sovereign currency: "Its no fun being Prime Minister of a debtor nation without its own currency. Unlike the US or the UK, Spain has no easy options."

I feel this has little to do with the problem. The UK implemented an austerity program in 2011 very similar to that recently implemented by Rajoy, consisting of significant tax increases and modest government spending cuts. The immediate result in the UK was a double-dip recession, despite the UK's sovereign currency. Raising taxes and imposing modest spending cuts amounts to austerity for the tax-paying citizen, not for the apparatchiks and cronies of government.

I don't believe that government (of either Spain, or the U.S.) can tax, or spend its way to prosperity. Nor, in the case of the U.S. and others, can we devalue our currency to prosperity. However, perhaps we can *grow* our way back to prosperity. It seems to me that reducing the tax burden on citizens, and reducing unnecessary bureaucratic red tape and regulation, is a better way to solve the problem. Free the citizenry to create their own prosperity. But before that can happen, government has to get out of our way, off of our backs, and out of our wallets. As Reagan once so pithily put it, "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."

What say you?
Posted by tthor
18th Feb
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I say...
...Krugman gives "economists" a bad name.

Also consider that "austerity" is proportionately more painful where the government represents a greater percentage of the economy overall, as it does in these "social democracies".

As with drug addicts, "stimulus" is less and less effective, and the withdrawal pains are far worse.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
Updated - 18th Feb
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Well Said Tthor!
Too bad people have such a hard time connecting the dots.
Posted by NewtonsMom
22nd Feb
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I appreciate your feelings.
Unfortunately the world views of nations like Greece and Spain are largely controlled by what the liberal media shows.

Which for the last few years have been protests and riots over any mention of cuts to bloated welfare state staples such as pensions, unemployment benefits and welfare benefits.

While trying to portray the people of Greece and Spain as victims of draconian cuts they are instead showing the rest of the world how spoiled the people were by unreasonable benefits and the expectation they will last forever.

It is hard to feel bad for the people of a nation when the news reports tell me they are rioting because they lost their lump sum 2 years of pay for a person laid off or their 2 years + of unemployment benefits. Or because their 110% of salary pension for working 20 years with guaranteed 5% per year increases are being cut.

I know many unemployed Americans who would love this option.

"Here, if you are receiving paro unemployment benefits you have the option of capitalizacion, which allows you to write a detailed business plan and, if approved, you may receive around 80 percent of your two years of benefits upfront to invest into your own small business."

Yet I also know many Americans who would love 2 years of unemployment benefits and would scoff at the idea of losing 20% of the money and having to work to create a business plan and start new a company.

When there is little incentive to work, people will not work.

"Almost five hundred years later, Lazaros tale still paints a perfect picture of Spanish society."
Posted by Hates Idiots
Updated - 18th Feb
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Also do recall...
...that only quite recently the Obama Administration was trying to convince us that we should be emulating Spain's wonderful "green jobs economy" as the shining path to prosperity. What went wrong?

But I highly concur; The American media does give a very skewed vision of Europe to its consumers. The narrative they most like to repeat is of a continent of citizens enjoying a standard of living substantially less than ours, and yet mostly contented to do so in sacrifice to higher Progressive social ideals.
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
18th Feb
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An Interesting Article
A very interesting and well-argued article but I'd like to add a few points if I may ...

1. The current cost of social secuity payments plus various other costs are a strong disincentive to setting up your own business even with the recent changes/rebates for under 30s.

2. As an ex-University teacher, I often felt that many of my students were in the wrong place and were essentially following their parents dream of a 'proper' education. They'd have been better off studying something more practical and would then have the skills to set up their own small business. The current resurgence in interest in Formacin Profesional bears this out.

3. Perhaps I'm sticking my neck out but certainly talking to friends and associates here in Barcelona, I get the feeling that there are an increasing number of 'emprendedores' here in Catalonia as compared to other parts of Spain. (This is a sensation and I'm prepared to be corrected by statistics, by the way!)
Posted by SimonHarrisBCN
18th Feb
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Viva los emprendedores!
To your excellent points:

1) Similar headwinds face U.S. entrepreneurs. The amount of regulatory red tape I now face regarding health insurance, workplace compliance, 401K fiduciary responsibility, etc., etc., is much higher today than when I started my business 20 years ago. Frankly, if I had to start my business today, I'm not sure I'd bother.

2) If attendance in the graduate class I teach is any sort of indication, many students are finding themselves forced to pursue post-graduate education. My guess is this is not by choice, but simply because they can't find a job.

3) I'm glad to hear there's some good news in Barcelona. You read the papers, and all you see are horrific numbers like 26% unemployment. Entrepreneurial small businessmen and women are the backbone of any economy. If the Spanish economy is to be 'saved,' it will be saved by the emprendedores, not the government.
Posted by tthor
18th Feb
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Great article, Spain will be back stronger
I am not the traditional young Spanish that is reflected in the article. Spanish talent as stated is moving abroad. I believe that this emigration of talent will try and change the current mentality. At the end of the day, Spain once had the biggest empire in the world...entrepreneurship and ambition created this empire, so it is in our genes, we just need to "rediscover" it!
Posted by german.fernandez.almeria
Updated - 18th Feb
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I hope you are right.
The question is: Will the country have to completely collapse in order for that to happen?
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
19th Feb
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Spanish culture
Having lived in Spain for 6 years, I can say for sure that generally speaking, ( there are always exceptions ), children are not given the incentives within the family to aspire beyond getting married and being able to take good care of their children and also their parents when they become elderly. Sadly most girls look for a ' good ' marriage rather than a career. I remember asking one little girl of about 6 years old what she wanted to do when she left school and she replied that she would like to work in a shop selling clothes. I asked her if she would'nt prefer to have her own clothes shop rather than work for someone else and she looked at me as though I were mad. Times are changing a little, but with Spain in recession, many young men and women are looking for employment within the tourist trade in other Spanish speaking countries such as Mexico. Education within the schools is required to make young people think outside the box
Posted by jensenp13
19th Feb
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another stereotype
Im incredibly shocked Mr. jensenp13. You wrote you have lived in Spain for six years but, can you tell me where and when? Are you sure you have lived here?
You described a bad stereotype of our culture. It could be true forty years ago but this country has changed. In fact, there are a lot of young people well prepared in this country. Its sad they have to leave our country although, and believe me, their objective it is not to get a good husband/wife.
I don
Posted by jap2013
19th Feb
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You're out of touch
I have lived in Spain for 20 year (I'm a 52 year old American). My 87 year old mother-in-law has a degree in Chemistry. My sister in law is a MD and my other sister in law has a PhD in Geo-Physics. My personal doctor is an MD and I believe way over 50% of doctors in this country are female. Were you visiting a gypsy family....or what?
If you ask a 6 year old American girl what she want to be - she may well answer "a princess".
I think you're way off base and out of touch here. I know more American girls looking for the dream of the "perfect husband" to take care of her than Spanish girls with that aim.
Posted by NewtonsMom
22nd Feb
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