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Private garbage collection failing in Toronto

By | August 13, 2012, 9:59 AM PDT

(J.P. Moczulski for The Globe and Mail)

(J.P. Moczulski for The Globe and Mail)

The first week on the job for Green For Life Environmental Corp., the winner of the $186.4-million private contract for garbage collection in Toronto, went, in a word: terribly.

“As of 4 p.m. Friday, 1,044 complaints about late or missed garbage pickups had rolled in to the city’s 311 line,” wrote Kelly Grantmatthew Braga of The Globe and Mail.

The rocky start could jeopardize Mayor Rob Ford’s push to outsource garbage throughout the city, warns one of the mayor’s top lieutenants.

“If we can’t get customer service standards up to where we’d like them to be, it’s going to be more difficult to make the case for further privatization,” said Councillor Denzil Minnan-Wong, the mayor’s top consultant on garbage.

Late night pick ups have been met with both anger and sympathy.

“We expect them to come when they say they’re going to,” said Dorothy Henry, as she dragged her empty green bin in from the driveway.

Her trash was still sitting outside her home soaking up the rain.

When collectors drove up Humewood, north of St. Clair, sisters Heather and Mary MacDonald told them to go home and get some rest.

“We told them, no one wants these trucks out at 11 p.m.”

Solid waste boss Jim Harnum has decided not to punish GFL, although the city contract includes a $150 fee for every time a truck misses the pick-up deadline.

“My take on this is we wouldn’t necessarily hire a new employee and start disciplining them if they couldn’t operate the truck properly,” he said.

If GFL is not up to speed in four weeks, Mr. Harnum will consider a tough love approach. Until then, privatization remains a hot, smelly topic on Toronto streets.

[via: The Globe and Mail]

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I think I see the problem
"Solid waste boss Jim Harnum has decided not to punish GFL, although the city contract includes a $150 fee for every time a truck misses the pick-up deadline."

No consequneces, no change.
Posted by bb_apptix
14th Aug
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Not so fast
You are comming off a group that has been through the learning curve to a group first week on the job. Let's put you in a truck and rate your performance.

On the other hand everytime that the union missed a deadline were they fined????

Ask me how I feel about "city workers" that, over the course of 3 weeks, managed to dump my 2 cans into the truck. The only good thing about 311 is that I got them to provide me with another can, free.
Posted by wingnut1024
14th Aug
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How about googling for the whole story?
From the article that you link to: Either way, Mr. Dovigi urged the media to cut his company some slack. Divide 900 [311 calls] into 165,000 [homes] and tell me what percentage you get? Its a pretty small number.

At least they pick it up which is a sight better than the horribly expensive union could bother to do: But in 2009, the fallout from the strike was very, very different. Toronto residents were not prepared to forgive or forget that the guys and gals with CUPE 416 held the city hostage for 39 long, hot, stinky days.
Posted by sandmich
Updated - 14th Aug
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Toronto Garbage Collection
The article says the company was in it's first week on the job. From the photo, I can see they are using automated pickup equipment and this requires a learning curve for both the residents and the contractor. For example, overfilling can interfere with pickup and can require a person to stop and dump the receptacle manually. I don't know the details of the Toronto case and the author supplied none, but systems like these work very well in many US communities. I would suggest giving them time to work out the bugs.
Posted by mikemce
14th Aug
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What was the complaint rate before the change?
Or did anyone care back then?
Posted by JohnMcGrew@...
14th Aug
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Saint Paul vs Minneapolis: Free Market vs City-Run
I just don't believe there is a real cost savings in privatizing trash removal. But if you are going to do it, go all the way. Here's an example.

In Saint Paul, MN we have about a free-market trash collection system as you can get, but a publicly-funded non-profit recycling contract for the whole city. In Minneapolis they have a single public garbage/recycling collection system that picks up more stuff including old electronics (illegal to throw away in both cities, but not clear for St. Paul residents where to send their old electronics). Both work with about the same efficiency, but the cost is lower for MPLS residents (and their waste management department is not bleeding cash). MPLS residents pay the city a separate fee for trash collection (much like water and sewer in most cities). In Saint Paul recycling is paid through property taxes, so the cost is hidden. Saint Paulites are required to have a safe reliable way to get rid of our trash: we can hire any licensed operator to do it or we can just bring our trash to an authorized dump. Unless you do the latter, the monthly cost is the same or slightly more for trash hauling as the cost for MPLS residents for trash, recycling and electronic waste disposal. In MPLS, you are required to pay for the city service like you do for sewer, water and street maintenance assessments.

The biggest hidden cost in Saint Paul is that we have upwards of 20 different companies some local (Ken Berquist and Sons), some global (Veolia) all driving their huge, heavy trucks up and down our alleys and streets every week day. I have walked down several blocks that have as many as 12-14 different haulers. I don't believe the city has calculated the wear and tear on the roads, but it can't be small. It is also annoying how much noise the trucks make and there is one every day down my street. In the end, we pay more for waste management in Saint Paul than in Minneapolis, but we are evidently a more "free" people.

What I don't understand about privatizing an essential service like trash hauling is that it really doesn't lead to significant cost savings. The market signals are there in both circumstances: people complain and politicians see fixing it as an easy way to please. Also the process is really simple: pick up the trash in a timely and respectful manner and bring it some place where it doesn't threaten public health or safety.
Posted by technology@...
14th Aug
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Canada becomes America- the Wall Street Syndrome
The other opinions are right on. No consequences for failure - no one ever takes responsibility or gets to be called on their failure. Look at the Oak Ridge break-in last week in the US. Three "obvious" terriorists break in to our most secure nuclear facility. The three quite elderly anti-nuke protesters had NO PROBLEM getting into the bowels of the facility.
The consequence? Only to the three proud citizens working for peace; the mangers of the facility were reassigned. Boy, that will get people to step up.
Posted by affordablecomputerguy@...
14th Aug
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Both can have problems if unwatched.
Public trash disposal can get very expensive if the disposal department is corrupt. Municipal management may flood the place with no show political hires that are easy to hide with phantom trucks buried in the paperwork of a large fleet. The unions do not complain because they are in on the scam by collect dues from the no show workers through state mandated payroll deductions.

Privatized disposal is usually a dumping ground for political favorite sons getting favorable city contracts. Work that can be done by 10 trucks is contracted for 12 trucks and only completed by 8 trucks. Again, false records are used for no show jobs and phantom trucks to make it look like 12 crews and trucks performed the work.

These and other trash scams have been caught in cities in Massachusetts. Both of these in my home town over the past 30 years.

It all comes down to honesty and accountability.

Both systems can work well, but both systems are easy to corrupt.
Posted by Hates Idiots
14th Aug
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Garbage & TO
Rachel only tells half the story. All new major projects like this one have a learning curve associated with them. When the learning is complete Toronto will have lowered its costs and its head count.

Also Toronto loves to complain about everything, I know, I was imprisoned there for ten years once.

Art S ex-pat
Posted by aschwarzt12
17th Aug
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Garbage collection
It is a good habit to collect the weekly wastes in these green bins. Just like as Toronto, in many cities government has operated a wheeled bin collection scheme, where homeowners and commercial sectors have provided a normal bin for collection of waste. A weekly collection bin has been given to everyone where he or she has to sort the waste so that the reusable material can be recycled in a proper way.
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