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Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation

By | August 6, 2010, 9:33 AM PDT

Here’s an idea that could provide the United States with all the solar power it needs, while also helping to fix a large part of our crumbling infrastructure:  pave our 25,000 square miles of roadways with intelligent solar panels. A road “that pays for itself,” its designers propose.

Is this a feasible idea, or something akin to trying to build a bridge across the Atlantic?

There may be some economic justification. Liquid asphalt, a petroleum-based derivative, now costs close to $1,000 a ton, while asphalt itself is still under $100 a ton, says Scott Brusaw of Solar Roadways, an engineer proposing the idea. “We can’t keep building asphalt roads, doing the same thing… its an antiquated system we’ve been doing too long,” he says. “Let’s move on and leave the fossil fuels behind us.”

Solar panels, operating at just 15 percent efficiency, installed as roadway surfaces within the 25,000 square miles of existing roads in the lower 48 states, would be capable of producing “three times as much electricity that we produce on an annual basis — almost enough to power the entire world,” Brusaw says.

The prototypes for Solar Roadways were funded by a research award from the US Department of Transportation, which solicited ideas for an “intelligent pavement” that could generate power and pay for itself. Brusaw and his team built a 12′ by 12′ solar road panel prototype, along with a 3′ by 3′ LED-lit “crosswalk” panel. The smaller panel could be used to mark and illuminate the edges of roads and other hazards, Brusaw says.

“Roads are collecting heat anyway,” Brusaw says, adding that “the technology behind it has already been done today.”

Can a sheet of glass withstand pounding by two-ton cars, trucks, and buses?  This is possible, Brusaw says, as “glass can have as high of strength as steel.”  There are other issues to be addressed, he adds, noting that driving on glass “has got to have the same traction as asphalt,” as well as be shatterproof and glareproof.

However, the idea has its critics. When the DOT award was made for the idea, for example, a commentary at The Infrastructurist site poo-pooed the idea as impracticable:

“Solar Roadways is engineering PV panels to withstand 40-ton vehicles going 80 miles an hour over them day and night for decades. How much more does it cost to make solar panels–already a bit pricey–totally indestructible? We’re guessing a lot. And this all so we can avoid putting them someplace sensible, like on all those empty rooftops in America’s sunnier climes, where cars and trucks don’t drive and where there also happens to be an existing electrical grid for them to hook into.”

It may be too expensive and impracticable to lay out 25,000 square miles of solar panels. But perhaps some hybrid or partial approaches can be put in place.  Or are we better off using more — as The Infrastructurist suggests — “sensible” locales for solar panels?

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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
First could someone delete the spammer comments above? It's really distracting.
Posted by 6Wolves1Spirit
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
What is the cost of replacing my driveway with solar panels? Just because the government is stupid and doesn't want to save the planet doesn't mean that allot of folks out there think the same.
Posted by sotiris.baxevanis@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
This actually seems like a fairly ingenious idea. Sure, it's still got some kinks to work out, mostly in the area of durability, but the core concept is pretty neat. I remember reading, oh jeeze, must have been 10+ years ago in a Popular Mechanics magazine, that there were some engineers who were thinking about glass as a material to build bridges and roads with. They suggested that, by putting tubes or pockets of epoxy into the glass panels, which, under sufficient stress would open (like a glow stick) and spread out over the damaged area, repairs could be made almost instantly to the road surface. Something similar might be of use here.

I'm still thinking about the issues of grip and glare, but it sticks in my mind that the two may be related -- that is, if you were to come up with a glass with a certain kind of texture, it might catch the light in such a way as to eliminate or at least greatly lessen the glare.
Posted by 6Wolves1Spirit
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Remove the comments that include spam!
Posted by neil@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Pave the shoulders of the highways with photocells. This removes the problem of wear and tear. Step two could be the paving of lanes as alternating longitudinal strips of concrete and photocells, designed so that vehicle tires align with the concrete when not changing lanes. Make the photocell surfaces somewhat noisy, and motorists will drive on the concrete voluntarily. This could be done using raised projections on the photocell surface, which also would protect the photocells from wear. (They would resemble conventional asphalt rumble strips.)
Posted by hdkinney@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Awesome idea. Hats off to the guys with this technology. Now, hopefully we can convince the government to fund this initially, so that it starts paying for itself (multiple times over...)

Articles like this make me proud to be an American. Go Solar Roadways!
Posted by james_6_18
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
A simple rebuttle to the "poo-pooing" above. Why not put solar panels on the roof tops AND the roads?

Also, instead of assuming that they'd be too expensive, do the numbers first and find out.
Posted by grassdogstudio
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Grip, glare, thermal expansion / shrinkage, bad weather (rain, sleet, snow, ice), expansive soils under the road base, repairs when damaged due to accidents, expected life span, replacement costs, ...

Guess that list could just go on and on.

A closer term alternative could be to install panels along side the rual highways to collect energy & add to the grids using existing tech.

I am wondering how MIT is coming with their water - hydrogen energy extraction tech I read about a few years ago here on ZDNET where there is enough energy in a olympic size pool to power the Earth for a year.

(or another MIT tech where a film was placed over the solar panel that concntrates the energy into 1 spot greatly raising the effency.)
Posted by jhimes
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Maybe I have a fundamental misunderstanding but don't solar panels get frightfully hot?

Please correct me if I am incorrect bu while driveway gets hot enough I think solar panels are much worse to the point of being dangerous.

Regards,

Ed
Posted by eabyrd
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Another option is to embed thermal conversion devices within conventional pavement to capture absorbed energy and convert it into electricity.
Posted by hdkinney@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
About 25 years ago I did a test in my driveway and along a fence made of concrete. I embedded tubing and ran water through it. It got hot enough to warm a swimming pool in the winter and turn the water into steam during the day. If we did this with highways and streets, we could generate enough energy to run the United States cost free. Of course, nobody was interested. Big biz and government want to keep us tied to their strings. Cannot let people be too free or independent. Why do you think solar is dead when it was really strong 25 to 30 years ago. The oil companies bought the patents back then and then closed down the companies, and congress did away with the tax breaks at the urging (paying) of the oil lobbyists. Keep us puppets and paying taxes to build their kingdom.
Posted by stevensedlmayr
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
The idea of combining solar cells and streets/roads isn't 100% new. Barry Bruce-Biggs, in a book he wrote in 1977 titled The War Against the Automobile, suggested in a footnote: "Everybody has their crazy ideas so I might as well suggest mine: Cover streets and roads with solar cells such that cars can drive over them", or something like that.

In the future, we're going to see more and more square footage of real estate, whether on rooftops or roadways or land not suitable for conventional agriculture or wherever, used either for solar arrays or algae ponds. The latter can be used to take energy from the sun and invest it in production of a commodity (biofuels) that, unlike electricity, can easily be stored for later use and transported by railroad tank car trains or pipelines. But we'll still need electricity, so definitely we'll be seeing more solar arrays.
Posted by AlexKovnat
9th Aug 2010
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Heat reduces the efficiency of PV cells....
If the PV cells are baking at 130-140 degrees which is very common in the southern states then the PV efficiency will be down in the single digits.

One commenter had it right, use a good deal of the flat warehouse (and other bldgs with flat roofs) then you can run heat sinks with water and a pump and have not only highly efficient Photo-Voltaics but also use the waste byproduct for hot water.
Posted by dunn@...
9th Aug 2010
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Even with my comment above....
PhotoVoltaics are Black and it seems to me that covering a city or any large area with black just makes for huge city heat sinks.

In a time when environmentalists are indicating that the polar ice caps are our saving grace in that they reflect light back then why are we setting aside large swaths of land for photo-voltaics.

I can see the virtue of all of these as opposed to oil or coal but we need to make the cities cooler not hotter.

Right now I can watch as seabreezes come from the coast and when they come close to the outer city a giant hole in the clouds form from it being to hot. The only time we can count on good amounts of rain are when the seasons are changing.
Posted by dunn@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Read post 13! It'll NEVER happen!!!!!
Posted by r1r1p1@...
9th Aug 2010
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Crazy or just Ignorant ?
I just have to wonder.

Rather than do what is practical, why do some people insist on being stupid?

Covering roads in solar panels rather than rooftops makes as much sense as
terraforming Mars in the future rather than preserving the Earth from pollution
today.

It would be insanely expensive in the long term. Could it be done ?

Well, maybe. With synthetic diamond film rather than glass.

But it would be so HARD to do, and take so LONG to perfect. And only diamond
would resist the wear for twenty years.

Whereas we could start putting thin film solar panels on rooftops NOW.

Start with the cities; parking lot shade covers, the south side of buildings, roofs,
transparent cells over southern windows.

Easy stuff.

Move out into the suburbs and sell PV shingles and siding to homeowners.

Finally do what Germany does and line the meridian between divided highways
with panels. Less mowing to do that way.


But DRIVE on the panels? That's dumber than using Microsoft Windows without
virus protection !

Now, if you want to harvest energy from the highways and parking lots you could
embed tubing in the pavement and run coolant through it during the summer.

Easy to do. Run the hot fluid through a heat pump to power air conditioning
or a heat exchanger to make steam and drive a turbine.

Or use Stirling engines.

Flexible tubing would last for decades and be very low maintenance.

All of this is doable now.

I wonder sometimes if people who are anti-renewable energy might promote
crazy... no, STUPID ideas like this to muddy the waters.
Posted by Jkirk3279
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
J. Kirk:

Relax. B. Bruce-Biggs probably never meant for the idea of combining roads and solar cells to be taken seriously.

We'll still see more and more solar cell panels and algae ponds, though we won't be driving on them.
Posted by AlexKovnat
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
yes i like this replacing asfalt whith solar panles ,, a very good idea ,,
Posted by lionheart026
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Hey, why not take advantage of the continuous breeze (approximately 30 MPH, on average) that is generated by traffic next to every major highway in urban and semi-urban areas of this country? D.O.T.'s could be provided with federal subsidies to install an enormous quantity of small wind turbines, which when all combined together would produce some usable quantity of electricity. Frankly, I always have to laugh at these schemes when one looks at the amount of energy required by an electric arc furnace to make steel. When two carbon electrodes, each the size of a bus, are dipped into a giant ladle filled with scrap metal (the ladle is huge) the power usage is so intense that the ground shakes beneath your feet. This process takes hours and many megawatts of energy. Somehow the idea of photovoltaic, wind power and many of the other "earth friendly alternative" suggestions just don't appear to fill the bill. They are great ideas for augmenting the existing infrastructure but ultimately it's either going to be Nuclear or fossil fuels.
Posted by RCBeltz
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Why not just develop a stronger or hybrid form of piezoelectric crystals which produce electricity when it is squeezed. That way it would produce electricity 24/7/365 rain or shine. Another benefit is that the heaver the vehicle the more electricity that is produced.
If this idea is used I expect some sort of remuneration; because it is after all my unique idea
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Posted by dinosoft@...
9th Aug 2010
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$1,000 a ton?
Cheaper to pave with Domino's pizzas, more durable under constant wear, too.
Posted by pgit
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Interesting how he says: ?Let?s move on and leave the fossil fuels
behind us.? but meanwhile "Liquid asphalt, a petroleum-based
derivative" is used to make the roads covering the panels.
Posted by cmrdecker@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
One thing that nobody here has thought to mention is the TRACTION of the vehicle tires on those relatively smooth, semi-transparent surfaces! And what about snowplows and salts in the winter? Ever see what happens when a plow snags something sticking out of the road surface? Nice idea but we don't have the necessary technology to make it work. At least, not yet.
wink
Posted by JTF243@...
9th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
In reply to stevensedlmayer. I used to work for BP Solarex in Frederick, Md. in the late 90's. BP took over Amoco oil which owned Solarex (with Enron). At the time we were the only company in the world producing solar panels at a profit with out government help. BP took over and "improved" the place. So long profitablity. This spring they closed the plant down and laid off the workers. Thank you BP. We love you too. @@##$@#
Posted by garyfizer@...
9th Aug 2010
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I agree with stevensedlmayr, hdkinney
Using the heat which is absorbed sounds like a much more cost-
effective use of that area to me.
Posted by steve_jonesuk@...
10th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
It may be too expensive and impracticable to lay out 25,000
square miles of solar panels.

It may be too impracticable and expensive to replace 25,000
square miles of asphalt, especially considering soaring deficits.
Yet over the next 15 years we will do exactly that anyway. Why
not start put road panels in place that provide energy which
produces an income stream.

Scott Brusaw said solar road panels could start with parking lots,
driveways and sidewalks. I think while the technology advances
and the effects of economies of scale are still emerging, which will
eventually lower prices, that's a good initial strategy.
Posted by jeffhre
10th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
I think it would make more sense to build the solar collectors above the roadways as a roof rather than as the roadway itself.

The article implies that the high cost of asphalt as a reason to replace it with solar panels? As if solar panels could somehow could be made more cost effective as road building material.

Current solar technology has a 25 year payback but doesn't last 25 years.

Roads will never be made from solar panels.
Posted by donnert
13th Aug 2010
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Land is not that expensive
It's silly to repave roads (with all the special requirements for durability, traction, etc.) when land is cheap. Plus, many roads are in areas such as the Northwest that are not optimal for solar.

Enough said...
Posted by zackers
25th Aug 2010
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RE: Pave this: replace asphalt on roads with solar panels, power the nation
Issues for the traveling public: glare, flexibility/durability, traction

Glare & Flexibility/durability
1. Embed steel strands in the glass
Steel strands will give glass, a naturally brittle material, more flexibility, similar to placing reinforcing bar in conrete. The steel strands must be oriented both horizontally and longitudinally with the roadway similiar to geogrid material. The longitudinal strands could carry electricity along the roadway from point A to B or for use from hybrid/electric vehicles. The horizontal strands would reduce the glare, similar to polarized glasses.

Traction
2. There are three conditions of a roadway: dry, wet, icy
We have enough technology to design tires away from the roadway surface. Aquatred has been out for years now. channel water away from our tires and produce a "dry" surface. Just recently manufactures have started producing "retractable" studded snow tires. A flip of a switch, studded tires. Flip it again, no studs. Dry roads, wet roads, icy roads, no problem.

Issues for the roadbuilder/maintainer: water runoff

One issue for paving with glass would be the excess rain runoff created from an Impenetrable roadway surface. To maintain the edge of the road surface water would need to be slowed and treated. The transportation industry is working with environmental groups to solve water runoff issues. There are currently projects implementing new designs to mitigate excess water from the roadway.

-Joshua Kiel
Posted by JoDaK
23rd Nov 2010
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