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Hackers should be hired, TED speaker urges: is this the best path to online security?

By | September 26, 2011, 6:53 AM PDT

In recent times, “Anonymous” hackers have been wreaking havoc with corporate and government systems. So, should corporations hire these guys?

Leading tech companies have long used “ethical hackers” to help probe vulnerabilities in their systems and software. Should some of the not-so-ethical hackers be added to payrolls as well?

One journalist, Misha Glenny, says there is a solid case to be made for hiring hackers. Delivering his remarks at a recent TED event, Glenny pointed out that groups such as Anonymous tend to be idealistic, and “are providing a service by demonstrating how useless companies are at protecting our data.”  As he put it:

“Despite the fact that we are beginning to pour billions, hundreds of billions of dollars, into cybersecurity — for the most extraordinary technical solutions — no one wants to talk to these guys, the hackers, who are doing everything. Instead, we prefer these really dazzling technological solutions, which cost a huge amount of money…  Where we have a surplus of technology in the cybersecurity industry, we have a definite lack of — call me old-fashioned — human intelligence.”

There’s obvious moral hazard in rewarding people who try to tear down companies’ operations. But police and spy agencies often employ nefarious types to help with investigations, part of that “human intelligence” on the ground that helps catch even more bad guys. And remember how the brilliant but misguided con artist Frank Abagnale — pursued by the FBI for years because of his scams, highlighted in the movie Catch Me If You Can — eventually sided with the feds to become a valuable resource in catching other bad guys. Abagnale also provides security consulting to many large corporations as well, by the way.


The typical hacker is a person with a lot of talent and passion, Glenny says. Trying to catch and prosecute these individuals is the wrong way to spend our resources, he adds. “We need to engage and find ways of offering guidance to these young people, because they are a remarkable breed. And if we rely, as we do at the moment, solely on the criminal justice system and the threat of punitive sentences, we will be nurturing a monster we cannot tame.”

Is Glenny right?  Should more efforts be made to engage hackers, and bring them into the fold?  Should bad behavior be rewarded?

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Joe McKendrick

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Joe McKendrick is an independent analyst who tracks the impact of information technology on management and markets. He is the author of the SOA Manifesto and has written for Forbes, ZDNet and Database Trends & Applications. He holds a degree from Temple University. He is based in Pennsylvania.

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Joe McKendrick

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Joe McKendrick is an independent consultant and editor. Joe has performed project work for the following companies in the IT marketspace: IBM, Systinet/HP, Teradata. He has performed project work for the following organizations in partnership with Unisphere Research (Unisphere Media): IBM, Oracle Corp., International Oracle Users Group, Oracle Applications Users Group, Professional Association for SQL Server, International DB2 Users Group, International Sybase Users Group.

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Hire the Hackers?
One may well be ambivalent on this matter; however, my first response is NO! Do not reward criminals.
Adopting a 'reward the crook' policy will only breed more crooks.
It may also foment crook versus crook warfare on the internet that could well wreak havoc. Circumstances are bad enough already and might well get out of hand.
Hire crooks only after they have suffered draconian punishment (loss of liberty, and internet access, loss of funds, etc. )
Valance incentives to behave well with disincentives against behaving badly.
Counterattack known extraterritorial ISP's hosting hackers and shut them off from the world.
Posted by William of Schenectady
26th Sep 2011
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always provide proof before payment so you know you are not being ripped

off.Send me a mail "zilchex (at) gmx (dot) com".We try to reply every

client ASAP & execute the project in the quickest time-frame

possible.Cheers
Posted by zilchex
24th Apr 2012
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Who says they're the best?
I'm not sure we should reward such bad behavior.

Besides, we don't know what the experts ("white hats" depending on your viewpoint) hired by the CIA, NSA, etc. can do. Who says their skills aren't every bit as good as the black hat hackers? They're just not about to publish it nor randomly go around hacking into popular sites for the lols.
Posted by zackers
26th Sep 2011
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always provide proof before payment so you know you are not being ripped

off.Send me a mail "zilchex (at) gmx (dot) com".We try to reply every

client ASAP & execute the project in the quickest time-frame

possible.Cheers
Posted by zilchex
24th Apr 2012
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15th Feb 2012
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Posted by hackman2
15th Feb 2012
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My team & I offer hacking services.We can hack/recover any email id &

website server & grant our clients access irrespective of the reason.We

always provide proof before payment so you know you are not being ripped

off.Send me a mail "zilchex (at) gmx (dot) com".We try to reply every

client ASAP & execute the project in the quickest time-frame

possible.Cheers
Posted by zilchex
24th Apr 2012
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18th Jul
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18th Jul
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Posted by zilchex
24th Apr 2012
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1st Jul
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18th Jul
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Zilchex
Still waiting for response from Zilchex for 2 months now... if anyone is interested in their services, please contact me and i will send you the full email communications I have had with Zilchex....
Posted by Ravijobs
31st Jul
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Zilchex is Real!
Hi,

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Posted by zilchex
5th Aug
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you are fake & a thief!....
ppl if u have doubts, dare me & i'll show d copied chats on how he scammed me!
Posted by gayleabby28@...
14th Nov
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Zilchex is a Scammer !
Be very careful. He just ripped me off. Total SCAM !!
Posted by Lucklonely
30th Aug
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ZILCHEX.COM/ Zilchex@gmx.com aka ABDUL UMAR, is a TOTAL SCAM!
you are a drama king, full of excuses & crap!..using weather, being busy, being friend of friend of d target, oh ur mother is crying (for what?) that's why u cant give the pwd.. all those bull shits u could think of!..

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you used phony proof of d so called target email to collect my $300 and ran away with it..ur a total fool to even tell me why i want to access somebody's email..that's why ur hired to hack it, damn ****!...now, ur asking me to try pishing it myself!..ur a nigerian fool!..i'll do whatever it takes to put ur scammy ass out of business!
Posted by gayleabby28@...
14th Nov
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Zilchex Liar !
He sends an empty fake email from cloned e-mail for so called "proof". No snapshots whatsoever. Then you send money for NOTHING !!
Posted by Lucklonely
30th Aug
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totally agree
he did the same thing with me
Posted by xtremdev2010
9th Nov
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HACKING SERVICES
My team & I offer the best hacking services.We can hack/recover any email id,mobile phone,FACEBOOK & website servers & grant our clients access..We always provide proof before payment so you know you are not being ripped off.Send me a mail "zilchex@gmx.com".We try to reply every client ASAP & execute the project in the quickest time-frame possible.
#Patience is the first weapon!#
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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fake
stay away
Posted by xtremdev2010
9th Nov
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you fool!...any interested victims..email me & we can share notes..
you are a scammer not a hacker!
Posted by gayleabby28@...
14th Nov
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HACKING SERVICES
My team & I offer the best hacking services.We can hack/recover any email id,mobile phone,FACEBOOK & website servers & grant our clients access..We always provide proof before payment so you know you are not being ripped off.Send me a mail "zilchex@gmx.com".We try to reply every client ASAP & execute the project in the quickest time-frame possible.
#Patience is the first weapon!#!!!
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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fake stay away
stay away scammer
Posted by xtremdev2010
9th Nov
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HACKING SERVICES
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee.
zilchex@gmx.com
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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HACKING SERVICES
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee.
zilchex@gmx.com...
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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HACKING SERVICES
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee.
zilchex@gmx.com
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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hck
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee
zilchex@gmx.com
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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HACKING SERVICES
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee.

zilchex@gmx.com
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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HACKING SERVICES
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee.
zilchex@gmx.com
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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HACKING SERVICES
Make sure to check out Zilchex! They will hack any account for you name it from Google to Yahoo to Facebook. Just email them and they will give you the password to any account you want for a legitimate reason and a small fee.
zilchex@gmx.com
Posted by zilchex
28th Sep
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hackhelp
PENETRATION testing of your website(s) hacking websites & Hacking Accounts which include FACEBOOK,twitter this is pretty easy,myspace,skype,and EMAIL IDS HACK(YAHOO,AOL,HOTMAIL,GMAIL,GMX,THE WORKS AND A HOST OF OTHERS).I require either a Name, Friend ID, or E-mail address of the targets account(s). I have the help of server hack that allows me to gain remote access to the website servers and from there I find the password which is usually in an MD5 hash, from that I must decrypt to get the real password. The entire process takes about 17 hours -48 hour to complete. All passwords are tested out 4 times before they get issued to any clients.I also rip Standards from websites.I accept payment through LR (Liberty Reserve) Only.I hardly ever USE WESTERN UNION!I might sometimes ask for a legitimate reason for the hack to be done.charges are also appropriate
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Posted by jonhacc
29th Sep
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help
PENETRATION testing of your website(s) hacking websites & Hacking Accounts which include FACEBOOK,twitter this is pretty easy,myspace,skype,and EMAIL IDS HACK(YAHOO,AOL,HOTMAIL,GMAIL,GMX,THE WORKS AND A HOST OF OTHERS).I require either a Name, Friend ID, or E-mail address of the targets account(s). I have the help of server hack that allows me to gain remote access to the website servers and from there I find the password which is usually in an MD5 hash, from that I must decrypt to get the real password. The entire process takes about 17 hours -48 hour to complete. All passwords are tested out 3 times before they get issued to any clients.I also rip Standards from websites.I accept payment through LR (Liberty Reserve) Only.I hardly ever USE WESTERN UNION!I might sometimes ask for a legitimate reason for the hack to be done.charges are also appropriate
YOU CAN REACH ME ON :jonhacc@yahoo.com (SEND ME A MAIL)i also sell credit cards
Posted by jonhacc
29th Sep
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helper
PENETRATION testing of your website(s) hacking websites & Hacking Accounts which include FACEBOOK,twitter this is pretty easy,myspace,skype,and EMAIL IDS HACK(YAHOO,AOL,HOTMAIL,GMAIL,GMX,THE WORKS AND A HOST OF OTHERS).I require either a Name, Friend ID, or E-mail address of the targets account(s). I have the help of server hack that allows me to gain remote access to the website servers and from there I find the password which is usually in an MD5 hash, from that I must decrypt to get the real password. The entire process takes about 17 hours -48 hour to complete. All passwords are tested out 3 times before they get issued to any clients.I also rip Standards from websites.I accept payment through LR (Liberty Reserve) Only.I hardly ever USE WESTERN UNION!I might sometimes ask for a legitimate reason for the hack to be done.charges are also appropriate
YOU CAN REACH ME ON :jonhacc@yahoo.com (SEND ME A MAIL)i also sell credit cards
Posted by jonhacc
29th Sep
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Posted by hackman2
29th Apr
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helper
contact email---> kross303 at yahoo.com for your daily hacking problems,we hack facebook,twitter ,myspace,instagram, email hack (yahoo,aol,gmail,msn, private domain etc) to website hack (removal of bad links ,admin username and password purchase) and server hacks,penetration testing ,security audit of websites,ddos attacks,perform result upgrades too, also sell online hack tutorials that can help you in hacking ,just send me a message on my email as we are available to work anytime of the day,
Posted by hackman2
29th Apr
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