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Could a shortage of engineering know-how derail US high-speed trains?

By | November 23, 2009, 9:26 AM PST

The Federal Railroad Administration announced earlier this month that it would award $8 billion in federal stimulus money to develop high-speed-passenger-rail service to various state applicants this winter, probably by January 2010.

There’s no question that interest in high-speed rail in the United States is at an all-time high. As Larry Greenemeier reports in Scientific American, the federal stimulus money is providing seed money and interest in such projects, and states such as California, Florida and Texas are seriously weighing high-speed rail options.

California is currently working on high-speed rail plans that would connect San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco with a 190-mile-per-hour bullet train. Price tag: $10 billion, and California is hoping that most funding would come from the federal level.

However, there are a couple of rubs to these grandiose plans: there may not be enough engineering talent to fulfill the most ambitious plans, and there will be enormous infrastructure adaptations required. As Larry Greenemeier put it, the program will be plagued by “a shrinking pool of in-country rail sector experts (which the Obama administration acknowledges is the result of the relatively small investment in passenger rail in recent decades), a lack of money available at the state level for such projects, and the need for safety standards specific to high-speed trains.”

For example, if Amtrak sought to shorten the high-speed Acela’s trip from Washington, DC to Boston by 15 minutes, it would require about $5 billion in re-engineering world along the tracks and supporting infrastructure. Acela currently reaches top speeds of about 140 miles per hour, but for the most part, only averages 60 miles per hour. By contrast, high-speed trains in Europe and Asia travel their entire routes at about 200 miles per hour.

There are economic questions to be settled as well. Harvard economics professor Edward Glaeser ran the numbers for high-speed rail versus air travel and auto travel between cities, and found the economic benefits to be mixed at best.

So a lot of the impetus for high-speed rail comes down to political will.  The engineering and infrastructure obstacle can be overcome if there is political will to support such an effort — just as the Apollo Moon landing program came up with a lot of imaginative solutions to formerly unsolvable problems in a very short time span.

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If the americans don't build it, they will fall further behind
As the article mentions. Most high-spped rail links in Europe and Asia acheive speeds of 200mph over their entire routes. These links are said to be quiet, energy efficient, comfortable, and inexpensive for the passengers. But the Asians and Europeans are far ahead of the United States in the development of this technology.

The upgrade for the Acela would cost the United States $5B. The installation of a new high speed rail link in Spain is much cheaper per distance. This is because the Spanish know what they are doing. They know how to do it. They have many such links already and so building more doesn't require much of a ramp-up.

For the U.S. to move forward, they have a long ramp-up to get over. If they choose to climb that ramp, they could become world leaders in about 20 years. If they don't, they will have lost the capability within 20 years.

Posted by mheartwood
23rd Nov 2009
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RE: Could a shortage of engineering know-how derail US high-speed trains?
I think we have missed the train on this one.
For the longest time, senators and rail companies tried to persuade
the government to emphasize rail engineering education but nothing
was done.
It is a shame that there are only a handful of colleges which teach
rail engineering as a course not as a single lecture in a
transportation class.
I currently work in the rail industry (I'm 25) and everyone else is
in their 50's. Because, the powers that be never paid attention when
they had to, we will soon not have enough engineers to take over from
the retiring generation.
This discussion addresses this issue from an engineers perspective,
http://www.engineeringdaily.net/forum/index.php/topic,75.0.html
Posted by 1SmartEngineer
24th Nov 2009
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RE: Could a shortage of engineering know-how derail US high-speed trains?
This goes beyond trains. Engineering shortfalls make other technologies suffer as well. Look at nuclear power in this country. When we are clammoring for a solution to foreign oil (we fought in 3 wars over it), greenhouse gas, and global warming, who is going to lead the charge for safe, clean nuclear energy? Engineering in this country needs an infusion and a recognition by people that it is a needed discipline. The only way to do this - make it attractive for people to become engineers. Pay engineers more, give them more status in society as doctors and lawyers enjoy. Some have just as much education and board certification in their own right.
Posted by angelopl@...
24th Nov 2009
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RE: Could a shortage of engineering know-how derail US high-speed trains?
the short answer is NO. the question that should be asked is 'who writes such drivel?' they may be intelligent but they act as if they never bother to think deeply about what they write preferring instead to put something on paper to get their names shown.

we had never built a nuclear plant, a spacecraft and the craft to take it to the moon and back, a nuclear submarine or the kind that goes faster undwerwater than on the surface and that goes safely to great but classified depths, etc etc..
when did we become a nation of dummies and one that had a dearth of smart people, especially now with a 10% unemployment rate (official) though the real rate is much higher. do all of you feel that our people are untrainable or cannot learn new skills. after all, it is a matter of the science of a number of different disciplines. where is the problem?
heather and joe are listed as business brains. i would rather not let my business be infested with their brainy thoughts
Posted by stilt21
24th Nov 2009
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Why re-invent the wheel?
Import the technology from Europe or isn't the American national debt high enough.

We are supposed to be living in a global economy, aren't we?
Posted by softwareFlunky
24th Nov 2009
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RE: Could a shortage of engineering know-how derail US high-speed trains?
The first priority of America should be to maintain and improve its existing transport system and other essential ones.
It is foolish to neglect maintenance of much of your infrastructure such as roading, water supply, storm water and sewage systems as has been the case for decades.

All the neglect is now becoming a nightmare for America, and soon will become apparent to the population.

America could stop invading countries and stop building very expensive stealth bombers,
nuclear powered aircraft carriers, nuclear attack submarines .

This may allow money to be spent on the essentials of a civilised country.

High speed trains could wait, things like water cant.
Posted by elderlybloke
18th Mar 2010
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