Tesla: Drive (almost) anywhere in Europe by end of 2014
— By Tyler Falk on March 4, 2014, 3:42 PM PST
I read where they were having trouble charging the Teslas in Norway at night. Elon blamed the Norwegian grid. Given the known reluctance of Li batteries to accept charge under 0 C I have a different opinion. I would suspect the same problems will be encountered throughout Northern Europe. But we'll likely never know. The Tesla acolytes are pretty good smothering negative information.
I fail to see how the superchargers are a big deal. They only cover a prescribed route and only if you're willing to travel far slower than the posted limits. Eventually we will come to the point where the cost of expansion and operation greatly outweighs the value of the hype generated by articles such as this. At that point the stock holders may have a different opinion.
The real-world range for a single charge in a Tesla is closer to 200 miles, according to Consumer Reports, which loves the car: http://consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/07/tesla-model-s-review/index.htm
Once again, the EV evangelists are both overselling the range, and amplifying the big disadvantage to EVs, namely their limited range. If you like grand touring, this simply isn't the car for you. Planning your trip around seeking out a few dozen charging stations isn't going to be fun for most people. And those who think they'll actually be getting 300 miles are going to be very disappointing, especially in winter.
EVs would sell much better if the evangelicals would focus on what they are great at: Short range commutes where most of the charging goes on at night at home.
Considering there are currently only *14 superchargers* in Europe, according to Tesla's own map, with none at all in the UK, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Austria, Hungary, and only handful in Germany, Belelux and Scandinavia this is laughable at best.
You need *hundred's* of Superchargers, if not thousands covering the continent of Europe of 739m people and 10m km2. The (as ever Tyler) missing context they have to fight against, according to the Internet is there are 8,500 Petrol Stations alone in the UK.
.. so you need a garage at 10+ centigrade then too, for your Tesla-S to sleep in ?!
it would suit my commute to work ideally, but than again at around $100,00 a pop, it's unaffordable so I'll be choosing a small (Compact) Turbo Diesel at next car change, and will get 60-80mpg, depending on my choice, and very strong residual values. Something in the VW Golf 2.0TDi Bluemotion/Ford Focus 2.0 TDCi/Honda Civic 1.6iDTEC peer group.
Still only 14 Tesla Superchargers in Europe, according to Tesla's website, with none in the UK, France, Italy, Sweden, Finland, Spain, Portugal, Austria etc..
Kirsten was 100% wrong, as since the article was written on 7th Feb, that should be a net addition of +47 Superchargers, giving a grand total of 61. Tesla have added zero.
Yep, don't leave your Li out all night not connected to the mains. I suppose in most cases those that can pay the Model S entry fee can also afford a garage.
You also don't want to leave it parked at much over 37 C with a full charge. Triggers a calendar life decline.
Which is why Tesla requires you to plug into the mains when parked. That and the vampire load.
@Neil Postlethwaite @JohnMcGrew Well, I'm not a 1%-er, so Tesla was never a serious consideration for me. (My notion of financial common sense dictates that it's insane to have more than 5% of your net-wealth tied up in quickly depreciating assets like a car)
For a time, I was on the verge of leasing a Ford Focus EV, mainly because after all the tax credits the Feds and state were throwing at it, the TCO was near zero. But then my wife's commuting requirements became less certain. If she was to be commuting daily downtown, the 70-mile range would have suited us perfectly.
One last thing. I find the move by Ford to aluminum on their truck to be quite amazing. If, by doing that, they can improve the mileage from say 20 mpg to 25 mpg, it will reduce energy use by the same amount as improving a 50 mpg car to 85 mpg.
I've done a fair bit of work in this area, and from painful experience I can tell you the EV adoration committee will ignore or gloss over this inconvenient fact. In similar fashion they will also gloss over the Tesla 5 kWh/day vampire load that's present even when the vehicles parked and similarly the material, logistics and manufacturing of batteries. End of life is especially problematic for EVs
@EVdeath So, does a heated garage get calculated into the Tesla owners carbon footprint? I mean the ICE-haters are now calculating the carbon footprint of building Ford's new aluminum F-150, so it seems fair enough to me.